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Postby maxofsalem » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:46 am

suspended for something out of control. makes no sense
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Re: Leaving

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Re: Leaving

Postby Flavorable » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:42 am

As you can see, you very much left intentionally, which is against the rules.
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Re: Leaving

Postby maxofsalem » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:55 am

I left literally seconds before being lynched, everyone was pushing to guilty me (some even saying to do it for reasons that had nothing to do with the actual game), so it was a guaranteed death. I pretty much left as a dead man, which doesn't really ruin the game at all if I leave. That being said, I won't leave again in the future unless fully dead. I just don't want to accept this punishment as it seems very on the nose, and a warning would be more appropriate than a suspension.
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Re: Leaving

Postby maxofsalem » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:02 pm

bumping this. don't say "we work from the bottom up" because I'm seeing posts that are newer than this one getting multiple replies so clearly you're favoring newer posts or just missed this one. my suspension is nearly over and still no reply to my defense
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Re: Leaving

Postby Jerme » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:23 am

The admin replies from the bottom with the final verdict. I usually go from the back as well, when going through the appeals.
Also you were not lynched, yet but just voted up on stand. So you were pretty much alive when you left.
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Re: Leaving

Postby maxofsalem » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:19 am

Sure Jerme. Just disregard everything I said about context and repeat the statement I already pointed out the flaw in. Alternatively, actually read what I'm saying.

I left the game right at the END of my defense stage because everyone was already settled on lynching me. There was nothing I could say or do that would get me out of that situation. In fact, not saying anything at all would've pretty much ended in the same result as me leaving, and you wouldn't have had a problem with it. Stop limiting yourself by constricting yourself to rigid rules and consider the actual outcomes of actions instead. Leaving was completely justified in this case because it had 0 effect on the game and you know it. To simply punish this for just the simple act of leaving would be lazy and would speak to how this staff just enforces. Handing out punishments for harmless actions in the game. It gets old.

As for working from the bottom when sorting through appeals, I just said told you that I know that is not 100% true because I'm seeing posts that are CREATED later than mine getting replies before me. Read what I write before replying.
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Re: Leaving

Postby Flavorable » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:02 am

We don't serve to just needlessly reply to you, and patience is something that is required when appealing a report. Just because we reply to someone else, does not mean we have to reply to you again as well. Especially in point-blank black and white reports where there's not really need for more explanation.

However, I will explain this more thoroughly:

You're not allowed to leave while alive. You don't know whether or not people would have voted guilty, because you are not a mind-reader. In fact, actually leaving before people even have the chance to vote means they can then just inno you and vote up someone else, meaning you don't just screw over yourself, but you actively mess with the way the game is supposed to be played.

There's no leeway for "but I'm pretty sure they would have guiltied me anyway", I mean, fair enough, if you refuse to defend yourself and then leave the game, you make it pretty obvious for them what to do.

No matter which way you put it, this report is valid, since you left the game while alive. If it had been after the votes were already in, I could have possibly seen some room for leeway, but as the report currently stands, there is no room for leeway.

And whether or not it would be lazy to "simply punish for this", the fact of the matter is and remains that breaking the game's rules tends to result in a suspension or ban. And you broke one of the most clearly written rules the game has.

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As said, this is a valid Leaving report and valid reports are not eligible for appeal. And this is why there has been no need to further reply to you, because all that is left now is for the Admin to come in and give the final verdict. And yes, the Admin does work from the OLDEST last reply to the NEWEST last reply.
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Re: Leaving

Postby maxofsalem » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:16 am

"We don't serve to just needlessly reply to you, and patience is something that is required when appealing a report. Just because we reply to someone else, does not mean we have to reply to you again as well."
This line. Didn't need it at all as it was not my point at all.

"And yes, the Admin does work from the OLDEST last reply to the NEWEST last reply."
This line. It simply isn't true. I actually read it as "doesn't work" at first because I didn't expect you to type out such a blatant lie. It's clear to me that Admin sometimes may just skip over certain threads because posts that were created after mine got replies before I got a reply. Day old posts were getting replies from people (yes people, not Trialbot or the OP again) rather than my multi-day long posts. No need for lies, Flavorable!

Also the explanation of people being able to lynch someone else instead of me makes sense and is far more comprehensible than Jerme regurgitating the same vague sentence every time, so I accept it. Lock the thread.
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Re: Leaving

Postby LevinSnakesRise » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:37 pm

How on earth did she lie to you? I literally went first-in first-out and here I am at your thread right at the end because you kept bumping it with replies. It's literally in the Information About Appeals thread of how appeals work;
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=8913

You were on Defense and left. That's valid for leaving. I'm not sure why this was even debated in the thread.

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