How to report gamethrower without being reported and banned?

[ProjectSYD]

I was banned for gamethrowing for asking players to report gamethrower in game b/c he bussed me without my permissions. I was banned for this before and so I stopped doing this & so I was angry because he was bullying me for the name i chosed and then I end up getting banned but they don't? How do I report someone without getting banned myself? This feel unfair and I won't do again but I want to know what I can do in future because how I supposed to report gamethrowers?

[williewest]

Wait until Game Over to ask people to report. Don't put it in your last will, because that in turn outs the other as maf and two wrongs don't make a right.

[ProjectSYD]

But I do this and people ignore me and don't report so then what?

[williewest]

Ask in dead chat as well when there's no medium present. Just don't do anything that would implicate yourself, like posting it in your Last Will or yelling about it on stand.
Otherwise, life goes on, and those intent on breaking rules will screw up eventually and get caught.

[ProjectSYD]

Ask in dead chat as well when there's no medium present. Just don't do anything that would implicate yourself, like posting it in your Last Will or yelling about it on stand.
Otherwise, life goes on, and those intent on breaking rules will screw up eventually and get caught.

that seem very unfair to me but i obviously not going to do it again it just suck I get 7 day suspension for trying to report thrower...

[mdntranger]

The mods will need to verify...but...from what I understand, bussing itself is not considered against the rules, with or without permission. Spite revealing after the fact will be met with a gamethrowing conviction every time.

On a related note, you did not help your case with your silent protest, either. It can be argued that there was implicit approval as you never stated 'not' to bus you, even when your teammates made it clear they were intending to do so. Regardless, the allowed bussing would supersede any argument along these lines anyways.

[Joacgroso]

There's nothing wrong with reporting people, as long as you believe they broke a rule. You can't be punished for reporting someone else unless you break a rule in the process. In your case, you outed your fellow mafia in your will instead of waiting until he died or the game ended, which is what you should have done. You were punished for gamethrowing, not for reporting someone. Also, maybe you wouldn't have been bussed if you had told the other player not to bus you. That player asked for objections and you stayed quiet.

Even then, I advise you not to waste your time reporting people for bussing because they are absolutely not getting punished for that. The only things that count as gamethrowing right now are:
-Killing a revealed mayor as town unless they can be a vampire/TT or they are gamethrowing.
-Outing your faction members as coven/mafia/vamp (bussing doesn't count).
-Admitting that you intend to lose (and even then, half of those reports are deemed innocent).
-Purposefully killing your lover.
-Purposefully outing/killing the VIP as town.

Literally everything else will go unpunished.

PS: You know what's one of the best things about the trial system? When you are a juror, you can generate reports against a player on your own, as long as someone was reported in that game. While it takes 2 players to report someone during a game, it only takes 1 juror to "duplicate" the report against someone else. So if you join the trial system you can help people who can't get anyone else to report someone else. You won't be able to do that with games you were in, but at least you will be able to prevent other players from suffering the same "injustice" as you (though in this case I don't think you were in the right). You will also gain a better understanding of the rules.

[ProjectSYD]

The mods will need to verify...but...from what I understand, bussing itself is not considered against the rules, with or without permission. Spite revealing after the fact will be met with a gamethrowing conviction every time.

On a related note, you did not help your case with your silent protest, either. It can be argued that there was implicit approval as you never stated 'not' to bus you, even when your teammates made it clear they were intending to do so. Regardless, the allowed bussing would supersede any argument along these lines anyways.

So then I can go in every game and do this without punishments? If so I will do this if it is for the rules in every game.

[ProjectSYD]

There's nothing wrong with reporting people, as long as you believe they broke a rule. You can't be punished for reporting someone else unless you break a rule in the process. In your case, you outed your fellow mafia in your will instead of waiting until he died or the game ended, which is what you should have done. You were punished for gamethrowing, not for reporting someone. Also, maybe you wouldn't have been bussed if you had told the other player not to bus you. That player asked for objections and you stayed quiet.

Even then, I advise you not to waste your time reporting people for bussing because they are absolutely not getting punished for that. The only things that count as gamethrowing right now are:
-Killing a revealed mayor as town unless they can be a vampire/TT or they are gamethrowing.
-Outing your faction members as coven/mafia/vamp (bussing doesn't count).
-Admitting that you intend to lose (and even then, half of those reports are deemed innocent).
-Purposefully killing your lover.
-Purposefully outing/killing the VIP as town.

Literally everything else will go unpunished.

PS: You know what's one of the best things about the trial system? When you are a juror, you can generate reports against a player on your own, as long as someone was reported in that game. While it takes 2 players to report someone during a game, it only takes 1 juror to "duplicate" the report against someone else. So if you join the trial system you can help people who can't get anyone else to report someone else. You won't be able to do that with games you were in, but at least you will be able to prevent other players from suffering the same "injustice" as you (though in this case I don't think you were in the right). You will also gain a better understanding of the rules.

Okay so I won't put this in my note but you're saying if I claim sheriff and say my mafs are sus then I can never ever get banned ever? If so I use this strat all the time cause it seems OP.

[Joacgroso]

You won't be banned for bussing your fellow mafia members. However, keep in mind that now that you stated that you are going to do it just to spite them, you are in risk of actually being punished. You were suspended for a week, which means that your next guilty report will result in a permanent ban.

There's a difference between bussing one mafia member who claimed he was going to stay quiet the whole game and bussing the whole mafia out of spite for a punishment. But as long as you make it seem like you're trying to win, it's unlikely that you will be banned for that.

[ProjectSYD]

You won't be banned for bussing your fellow mafia members. However, keep in mind that now that you stated that you are going to do it just to spite them, you are in risk of actually being punished. You were suspended for a week, which means that your next guilty report will result in a permanent ban.

There's a difference between bussing one mafia member who claimed he was going to stay quiet the whole game and bussing the whole mafia out of spite for a punishment. But as long as you make it seem like you're trying to win, it's unlikely that you will be banned for that.

Not for spite it seems like an OP strat like people would think i'm confirmed town.

[Joacgroso]

It's not overpowered because town might just lynch you instead. And just because you bussed someone it doesn't mean town will trust you completely. If you want to do that , I advise you to claim investigator instead of sheriff and you will make it a lot further.

Keep in mind that if you get your mafia lynched one after the other you may end up in a 5 vs 1 against town, which is a terrible situation. No matter how trustworthy you are, sherrif claims will be the first to be doubted once everyone has claimed, especially if the jailor, transporter, mayor, escort or maybe a TK are still alive.

Bussing is useful when one of your teammates is dead weight (afk), if they are going to be lynched regardless, or if there are only a few players left and it may help you to force a misslynch later.

[ProjectSYD]

It's not overpowered because town might just lynch you instead. And just because you bussed someone it doesn't mean town will trust you completely. If you want to do that , I advise you to claim investigator instead of sheriff and you will make it a lot further.

Keep in mind that if you get your mafia lynched one after the other you may end up in a 5 vs 1 against town, which is a terrible situation. No matter how trustworthy you are, sherrif claims will be the first to be doubted once everyone has claimed, especially if the jailor, transporter, mayor, escort or maybe a TK are still alive.

Bussing is useful when one of your teammates is dead weight (afk), if they are going to be lynched regardless, or if there are only a few players left and it may help you to force a misslynch later.

hmm, it seems op though and I should know I am masters at game multiple times