About kys

[Joacgroso]

As far as I know, saying "kys"/"kill yourself" isn't reportable because this is a game about murder so you have to assume that they mean "kys ingame". This is only reportable if they say "kys irl" or if they explicitly tell you to commit suicide in a way that is impossible in the game.

My question is, what about the dead chat? If a player tells someone else to kts in the dead chat, then we can't assume that they mean ingame. Shouldn't that be punishable too?

[syjfwbaobfwl]

well, to my knowledge saying kys is reportable regardless where you say it, considering there is no way to "suicide" in game other than leaving

[kyuss420]

pretty sure it falls under hate speech/harrassment no matter what the context, the assumption is always ''kys irl'' unless they explicitly say ''kys ingame''

[Joacgroso]

Really? I'll duplicate reports on that people from now on, but I was sure it was the other way around, since those reports are always deemed innocent.

[Flavorable]

Really? I'll duplicate reports on that people from now on, but I was sure it was the other way around, since those reports are always deemed innocent.

Yeah, it is the other way around. Keep in mind that these two have little to no experience with the Trial System and are not well-versed with the rules. Since you're in the Trial Discord, I suggest asking Trial-related questions there so you don't get misinformed.

To answer your question: in dead chat it's a bit of a tricky one, but generally, on a juror level, you would want to guilty that so a Judge can judge the severity, especially since the acronym itself is filtered.

And to clarify the misinformation of the other two: "kys" is only reportable/punishable if it's clear the person is implying irl.

[Joacgroso]

Right, I forgot about the soft filter. That is trickier. If we can guilty "kys" in dead chat we might as well always guilty it, since that term is barely used when alive. People are flamed in the dead chat in most cases.

[StlnSP]

Idk personally i think since it's virtually impossible to "kill yourself" in game (vigs don't do it on command either), and there isn't any scenario in which it is positive, so you HAVE to assume it's irl.

[SilverCruz]

Idk personally i think since it's virtually impossible to "kill yourself" in game (vigs don't do it on command either), and there isn't any scenario in which it is positive, so you HAVE to assume it's irl.

Day 1 Godfathers and Mafiosos - "Check this out."

And, unfortunately, there is one situation where it is positive. If the Mafia Killing has been jailed or Escorted two nights in a row with no sign of it stopping until the rest of the Mafia is picked off. At that point, it's gamethrowing if you don't quit.

Deadlocks are such a fair, balanced, and reasonable game mechanic, huh?

[kyuss420]

Idk personally i think since it's virtually impossible to "kill yourself" in game (vigs don't do it on command either), and there isn't any scenario in which it is positive, so you HAVE to assume it's irl.

Day 1 Godfathers and Mafiosos - "Check this out."

And, unfortunately, there is one situation where it is positive. If the Mafia Killing has been jailed or Escorted two nights in a row with no sign of it stopping until the rest of the Mafia is picked off. At that point, it's gamethrowing if you don't quit.

Deadlocks are such a fair, balanced, and reasonable game mechanic, huh?

didnt realise this topic was about deadlocking in classic but w/e

I just find it kind of hypocritical that you can tell someone that they should kill themselves, and thats fine, but use a word that is considered derogatory, that causes no physical harm is insta permabannable

especially when in australia where 'Dolly's Law'' exists so inciting suicide (online and irl) is a criminal offence with apprehended viloence orders being issued which can lead to 5 years imprisonment

[StlnSP]

Idk personally i think since it's virtually impossible to "kill yourself" in game (vigs don't do it on command either), and there isn't any scenario in which it is positive, so you HAVE to assume it's irl.

Day 1 Godfathers and Mafiosos - "Check this out."

And, unfortunately, there is one situation where it is positive. If the Mafia Killing has been jailed or Escorted two nights in a row with no sign of it stopping until the rest of the Mafia is picked off. At that point, it's gamethrowing if you don't quit.

Deadlocks are such a fair, balanced, and reasonable game mechanic, huh?

any situation where someone left the game is just refered as "leaving the game" rather than "killing themselves" by players.

no one has ever refered to that situation as telling the MK to "Kill yourself".

either the MK left knowing they're losing, or they don't and somehow godfather would tell them to leave the game.

[Flavorable]

Idk personally i think since it's virtually impossible to "kill yourself" in game (vigs don't do it on command either), and there isn't any scenario in which it is positive, so you HAVE to assume it's irl.

Day 1 Godfathers and Mafiosos - "Check this out."

And, unfortunately, there is one situation where it is positive. If the Mafia Killing has been jailed or Escorted two nights in a row with no sign of it stopping until the rest of the Mafia is picked off. At that point, it's gamethrowing if you don't quit.

Deadlocks are such a fair, balanced, and reasonable game mechanic, huh?

First things first: It's never gamethrowing to not leave a match, that's ridiculous.

And second, I would love it if you don't derail a thread. This thread is about how something is handled in the Trial System, not an invitation for you to rehash one of your own many complaints about something that has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Please refrain from derailing a thread again, or it will result in a Board Warning.

[OreCreeper]

If “kys” was guilty, then half the player base would go poof just like that.