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Re: How does Jailor protect/does Jailor have a Powerful atta

Postby RiceHatMan » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:38 am

cob709 wrote:There's a story about the "Immovable Object" vs. the "Unstoppable Object"
Basically here's the premise: (idk maybe someone more informed can make this argument)

But anyways, the unstoppable force is an "exception" to the jailor's abilities. They basically override the fact that their target is jailed.
This is because Jailor has UNSTOPPABLE attack, and Juggernaut also has UNSTOPPABLE attack. They both have the same attack value, and therefore they are both able to attack and kill a jailed target.

Well, Jailor would go through jail anyway, since their attack indirect. Juggernaut can attack through jail, because jail only gives you Powerful defense from direct attacks. The definition of an Unstoppable attack is that it can go through Powerful defense, but not Invincible defense. Of course, you could just say Unstoppable attack goes through all defenses, but it's simpler to say all defenses give Powerful defense and not Invincible defense rather than giving Unstoppable attacks an exception. For example, you could say Doctor protects from all attacks except for Unstoppable attacks, but it's simpler to say Doctor gives you Powerful defense and makes more sense than giving Unstoppable attacks an exception.
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Re: How does Jailor protect/does Jailor have a Powerful atta

Postby Brilliand » Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:55 am

Isn't it funny how Jailor executing Pestilence doesn't give the "unstoppable force meets invincible object" achievement?

Seems like that should be evidence for something.
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Re: How does Jailor protect/does Jailor have a Powerful atta

Postby RiceHatMan » Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:17 pm

Brilliand wrote:Isn't it funny how Jailor executing Pestilence doesn't give the "unstoppable force meets invincible object" achievement?

Seems like that should be evidence for something.

I guess it would. However, this would only happen for direct Unstoppable attacks, which only Juggernaut has. This proves, however, that Jailor cannot have an direct Unstoppable attack, and can only have an indirect Unstoppable attack, or the preferred indirect Powerful attack. This proves that Jailor always has a indirect attack.
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Re: How does Jailor protect/does Jailor have a Powerful atta

Postby RiceHatMan » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:27 am

There is solid proof Jailor has an indirect attack. Firstly, we already know Jailor doesn't visit their target when executed. Secondly, and more importantly, Jailor goes completely through traps. This means that since Jailor doesn't activate traps in any sort of way, Jailor has a indirect attack, meaning it doesn't need an Unstoppable attack to go through jail, since jail can only protect against direct attacks.

∴ Jailor having a indirect Powerful attack is a possible solution to Guardian Angel protecting from a Jailor's execute
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