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Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:13 pm
by kdwllnger34
I understand the new role list for ranked practice is just a test, but in my opinion, it's just as unbalanced. Out of the like 20 games I've played, mafia have won over half of them. The new role list makes it near impossible for the jailer to narrow down the roles and makes it impossible to figure out who to execute or lynch and gives mafia endless options to claim, same with the vigilante on who to shoot. I've had multiple players agree in game.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:41 pm
by WittyRecluse
PyromonkeyGG wrote:
StormFighter wrote:Well, in my opinion, ranked practice was better and more exciting before this patch. I just played in the new patch, and we had 3 investigators (including me) and all we did is whispered to each other about others' identity, but we didn't really had a role in the match. Mafia easily got it. So... overall, i think the version before this, was better.


Was it better because Town had a 70% win rate? We are trying to bring the factions win rates more in line with what we think is acceptable.

Not counting any and NE/NB

Town has 2/3 of the players, mafia has 1/4, NK has 1/12. So 67/25/8 winrates - which are close to what already existed - are ideal.

50/50 is not good given the numbers of the game. Winrates should be proportional to faction sizes.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:00 pm
by alex1234321
WittyRecluse wrote:
PyromonkeyGG wrote:
StormFighter wrote:Well, in my opinion, ranked practice was better and more exciting before this patch. I just played in the new patch, and we had 3 investigators (including me) and all we did is whispered to each other about others' identity, but we didn't really had a role in the match. Mafia easily got it. So... overall, i think the version before this, was better.


Was it better because Town had a 70% win rate? We are trying to bring the factions win rates more in line with what we think is acceptable.

Not counting any and NE/NB

Town has 2/3 of the players, mafia has 1/4, NK has 1/12. So 67/25/8 winrates - which are close to what already existed - are ideal.

50/50 is not good given the numbers of the game. Winrates should be proportional to faction sizes.

So I should have a much lower chance of winning if I am unlucky with the role that I get?

33/33/33 would be very difficult to do and would not be fair because of your reasoning, but proportional winrates are at the other end of the spectrum. I would prefer something closer to the middle like 45/35/20.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:10 pm
by mdb1023
But mafia is a minority, so it shouldn't be even. IMO 50-30-20 is fairest to me.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:14 pm
by mdb1023
it's a fair point but it shouldn't be anywhere NEAR 33-33-33 split because, by that same logic, rolling town (which is more likely) yields the same victory rate as rolling mafia, thus RNG still determines the likeliness of your win in this case.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:17 am
by TheNightmareFox
a what does elo mean
and what is this RP rewards thingy
b a bug i have noticed is this
for one thing someone will join ur party but the thing says the denied
and when you join a party the host was invited not u(this i what it shows)

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:45 pm
by JackiePants
Hi!

I know it isn't listed in this update, but I was curious if the spy could go back to being able to read whispers and seeing the mafia speak at night. I'm wondering if this has been an ongoing complaint? I'm really hoping for it to come back! I miss it!

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:34 pm
by Jerme
JackiePants wrote:Hi!

I know it isn't listed in this update, but I was curious if the spy could go back to being able to read whispers and seeing the mafia speak at night. I'm wondering if this has been an ongoing complaint? I'm really hoping for it to come back! I miss it!

The Spy will be reworked, so this role won't be reverted to the previous state.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:11 pm
by Sirenfal
I still have fingers crossed for an in-lobby report button, becuase it gets real trolly sometimes and it is difficult to catch them because they leave.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:32 am
by ExpandDong69696
That would be great.
Especially for those salty idiots in custom who leave and rejoin over and over again just to get the role they want

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:34 am
by MrSamRoyCain
Spy is useless right now, it really needs addressing ...


it didn't really need a nerf in the first place, and now it is really pointless - as a TI its powerless and really difficult to gain info for town

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:05 am
by TheNightmareFox
Sirenfal wrote:I still have fingers crossed for an in-lobby report button, becuase it gets real trolly sometimes and it is difficult to catch them because they leave.

YES

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:06 am
by mdb1023
Seeing who maf and coven visits is most certainly not useless.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:27 am
by ExpandDong69696
and then spy dies...
you`d think an undercover agent would have some form of self defence

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 7:13 pm
by levelupface
When will the coven update be added the actual website?

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:06 am
by ExpandDong69696
Eventually
it was just easier to put it on steam :P
i guess it will take at most a month

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 11:55 am
by Sirenfal
ExpandDong69696 wrote:Eventually
it was just easier to put it on steam :P
i guess it will take at most a month

It was also becuase steam has the most loyal people with a established way to pay and play, and it could take more than a month in my opinion

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:35 pm
by mdb1023
plus you might as well buy steam anyways if you dont' have it and want to buy the coven patch

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 10:39 am
by ExpandDong69696
(get dem merit points dawg :P)

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:21 pm
by chitownmvp01
Yay! Keep up the great work, Devs! And good luck to everyone in Season 1! :D

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:01 pm
by TheNightmareFox
TheNightmareFox wrote:a what does elo mean
and what is this RP rewards thingy

CAN I GET AN ANSWER??!?

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:59 pm
by LevinSnakesRise
ELO isn't some kinda of acronym. It's the system which judges your skill level.

There is no Ranked Practice reward.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:53 am
by VoltageAnH
Can there be a new Elo Trophy for getting 0 elo? Like a paper Trophy or participation ribbon? I would rather rock one of those than a Bronze and actually look like i am good.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:01 am
by VoltageAnH
ivan08651 wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:Can there be a new Elo Trophy for getting 0 elo? Like a paper Trophy or participation ribbon? I would rather rock one of those than a Bronze and actually look like i am good.



0 elo = bronze

Yes i know that, but if you are 0 Elo, are you really Bronze? I'd say you were more of a participant in the ToS Ranked scene and not a Bronze player.

Re: Patch 2.0.2

PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:23 pm
by VoltageAnH
ivan08651 wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:
ivan08651 wrote:
VoltageAnH wrote:Can there be a new Elo Trophy for getting 0 elo? Like a paper Trophy or participation ribbon? I would rather rock one of those than a Bronze and actually look like i am good.



0 elo = bronze

Yes i know that, but if you are 0 Elo, are you really Bronze? I'd say you were more of a participant in the ToS Ranked scene and not a Bronze player.


My elo is 654.

Mine is 0. :^) Thats why im saying I need a participation ribbon instead of a Bronze trophy.