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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Animate » Wed May 27, 2015 10:58 am

Hurricat wrote:Aaand this is why I wanted to lynch the Arsonist. Figures something would go wrong, lol.

DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:I knew we should've lynched birdy.

At least part of this was my fault, sorry. I convinced myself that the merge would've happened at the end of last night; otherwise I would've supported a birdy lynch yesterday instead of pushing for a matthew lynch.
Birdy had a roughly 10% chance of guessing correctly (or we had a roughly 90% chance of not transporting birdy's target), but we got unlucky.

Here's what I propose for today:
Everyone claim and send all previous results to iEsdeath (and/or myself, if you desire :?).
Using the spy and sheriff results, we try to figure out the 4th mafia role/member (since I'm pretty sure we're confident about who the mafia killing is..)
We lynch either the 4th mafia member or Dizzy.
If nothing persuasive or conclusive comes out of that, we fall back to a Dizzy lynch, since leyva seemed pretty sure about him being the witch.
We can also lynch the GF, but if the merge doesn't happen at the beginning of the night, that'll likely give mafia a kill in our district unless we can guess and roleblock the last mafia member.

..That being said, I'm convinced Dizzy is the witch, and that the last mafia member is hiding in the citizens.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Aeolian » Wed May 27, 2015 11:11 am

I sent the whisper to iEsdeath - I'll save my whispers for now because you never really know.
I predict they will just share the claims with Animate anyway.

Personally I'm on board for a Witch lynch... I'm getting pretty flustered at this point.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby iEsdeath » Wed May 27, 2015 11:25 am

NO!!!!
SO..MUCH...PRESSURE!
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby iEsdeath » Wed May 27, 2015 11:26 am

By the way, I slept peacefully, but still.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby DizzyWaddleDoo » Wed May 27, 2015 11:28 am

Oh yeah and I slept peacefully.
I haven't really gotten any info to be of use. Taylork is the only one who will respond to anything, and there's only so much you can ask a bodyguard who died night one.
I can prove myself with leyva tonight.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby iEsdeath » Wed May 27, 2015 11:36 am

Ok. So, since the Arsonist (Birdy) ignited, she won't be much of a problem to deal with today and there won't be a need to lynch her. However, since Leyva is dead, we will have to lynch Mafia or Witch preferably today. Personally, I'd suggest we lynch the Witch today since the Witch can always f us over.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Arcthurus » Wed May 27, 2015 11:42 am

You see Dizzy, there's still a problem you haven't explained.

Role List

Town Investigative - Spy
Town Protective - Taylor, Bodyguard
Town Support - Escort
Town Killing - Greatplayer01, Vigilante
Town Power - Leyva, Lawyer
Random Town - Sheriff
Random Town - Marshal
Random Town - Transporter
Citizen - Dotareporter
Citizen - Lizzie0
Citizen - Arcthurus
(Pool 1) - McShark; Doctor

Transporter, Marshal, Sheriff, Escort and Spy were all proven according to Leyva (RIP). So please tell me, where do you fit?


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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby iEsdeath » Wed May 27, 2015 12:00 pm

arcthurus wrote:You see Dizzy, there's still a problem you haven't explained.

Role List

Town Investigative - Spy
Town Protective - Taylor, Bodyguard Dead
Town Support - Escort
Town Killing - Greatplayer01, Vigilante Dead
Town Power - Leyva, Lawyer Dead
Random Town - Sheriff
Random Town - Marshal
Random Town - Transporter
Citizen - Dotareporter Dead
Citizen - Lizzie0 Dead
Citizen - Arcthurus
(Pool 1) - McShark; Doctor Dead

Transporter, Marshal, Sheriff, Escort and Spy were all proven according to Leyva (RIP). So please tell me, where do you fit?

Fixed.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby DizzyWaddleDoo » Wed May 27, 2015 12:13 pm

Leyva made that list based on the assumption that both medium claimers were liars, so it's obvious to me that one of hen is a dirty liar. You'll know that when I tell Animate and iesdeath what they claimed to leyva tomorrow. Or when you mislynch me, if you decide to do that.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Animate » Wed May 27, 2015 12:22 pm

iEsdeath wrote:
arcthurus wrote:You see Dizzy, there's still a problem you haven't explained.

Role List

Town Investigative - Spy
Town Protective - Taylor, Bodyguard Dead
Town Support - Escort
Town Killing - Greatplayer01, Vigilante Dead
Town Power - Leyva, Lawyer Dead
Random Town - Sheriff
Random Town - Marshal
Random Town - Transporter
Citizen - Dotareporter Dead
Citizen - Lizzie0 Dead
Citizen - Arcthurus / ReconMaster
(Pool 1) - McShark; Doctor Dead

Transporter, Marshal, Sheriff, Escort and Spy were all proven according to Leyva (RIP). So please tell me, where do you fit?

Fixed.


Fixed. Arc, while you may know who you are, you're not confirmed to any of us yet.

@Dizzy, could you at least tell us what you asked McShark?
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby DizzyWaddleDoo » Wed May 27, 2015 12:27 pm

At the very start of the night, I asked him this:
"I'm Dizzy. Who did leyva ask you to heal night 2? This is very important!"
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby iEsdeath » Wed May 27, 2015 12:40 pm

(Ughh. I hate being in these situations so much.)
So, I'm guessing the only thing we could potentially do or what would be best for Town right now is a role-claim, Animate?
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Arcthurus » Wed May 27, 2015 12:57 pm

DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:At the very start of the night, I asked him this:
"I'm Dizzy. Who did leyva ask you to heal night 2? This is very important!"


What did you do with your other seances?


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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Animate » Wed May 27, 2015 12:59 pm

DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:Leyva made that list based on the assumption that both medium claimers were liars, so it's obvious to me that one of hen is a dirty liar. You'll know that when I tell Animate and iesdeath what they claimed to leyva tomorrow. Or when you mislynch me, if you decide to do that.


Ha. I just looked back at something in the thread, and with reasonable certainty, I can guarantee the existence of the sheriff, the escort, the marshal, and the transporter in addition to their respective identities.
We can easily prove the spy today, by having them tap either iEsdeath or myself, having the target send a whisper with a codeword, and having the spy report back that word. I highly doubt there's an agent considering the mafia rolelist (based on probabilities, there's most likely have a mafia deception left but no guarantee), and it's hard to claim spy for any other role, so I'm pretty sure that the spy's the real deal.

That leaves no spots left in the rolelist, so we have confirmed scum as Dizzy, Gregriff and Birdy, and one scum between Arc and Recon.

@iEsdeath, I'm not sure if a public roleclaim would help us. That'll give mafia the rolelist in the merge (since I doubt we can get rid of the last two before the merge), and let them know who the more powerful town members are. I'd suggest keeping it secret right now. You'll get most, if not all of the results when ObiWan gets on to send the whispers. I'll come up with something and let you know.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby DizzyWaddleDoo » Wed May 27, 2015 1:09 pm

arcthurus wrote:
DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:At the very start of the night, I asked him this:
"I'm Dizzy. Who did leyva ask you to heal night 2? This is very important!"


What did you do with your other seances?

Taylork was the only one who would respond and I didn't have anything to ask him, so I didn't use them. (I also might've forgotten until it was too late.)
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DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:Leyva made that list based on the assumption that both medium claimers were liars, so it's obvious to me that one of hen is a dirty liar. You'll know that when I tell Animate and iesdeath what they claimed to leyva tomorrow. Or when you mislynch me, if you decide to do that.


Ha. I just looked back at something in the thread, and with reasonable certainty, I can guarantee the existence of the sheriff, the escort, the marshal, and the transporter in addition to their respective identities.
We can easily prove the spy today, by having them tap either iEsdeath or myself, having the target send a whisper with a codeword, and having the spy report back that word. I highly doubt there's an agent considering the mafia rolelist (based on probabilities, there's most likely have a mafia deception left but no guarantee), and it's hard to claim spy for any other role, so I'm pretty sure that the spy's the real deal.

That leaves no spots left in the rolelist, so we have confirmed scum as Dizzy, Gregriff and Birdy, and one scum between Arc and Recon.

@iEsdeath, I'm not sure if a public roleclaim would help us. That'll give mafia the rolelist in the merge (since I doubt we can get rid of the last two before the merge), and let them know who the more powerful town members are. I'd suggest keeping it secret right now. You'll get most, if not all of the results when ObiWan gets on to send the whispers. I'll come up with something and let you know.

How could you prove sheriff and marshal? And Agent is still possible.
Either way, I say we get gregriff today and I prove myself tomorrow.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 4 (Lead Poisoning)

Postby Arcthurus » Wed May 27, 2015 1:13 pm

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leyva45 wrote:
arcthurus wrote:...Leyva, you sure that spy claimer is proven?

The spy claimer was checked by a sheriff one night, so practically proven.


Not even nescessary to do that.


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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 4 (Lead Poisoning)

Postby Animate » Wed May 27, 2015 1:25 pm

arcthurus wrote:@Animate

leyva45 wrote:
arcthurus wrote:...Leyva, you sure that spy claimer is proven?

The spy claimer was checked by a sheriff one night, so practically proven.


Not even nescessary to do that.


Yeah, I just remembered that. Since disguisers don't fool sheriffs, it's impossible to refute that claim unless the sheriff is lying (which I doubt).
So there you have it. I'm reasonably certain of our town rolelist as presented above on this page.

DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:How could you prove sheriff and marshal? And Agent is still possible.
Either way, I say we get gregriff today and I prove myself tomorrow.


Deduction and balance of probabilities. Don't want to completely reveal my thinking process, but I can tell you after the game is over :D.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 4 (Lead Poisoning)

Postby DizzyWaddleDoo » Wed May 27, 2015 1:42 pm

Animate wrote:
DizzyWaddleDoo wrote:How could you prove sheriff and marshal? And Agent is still possible.
Either way, I say we get gregriff today and I prove myself tomorrow.


Deduction and balance of probabilities. Don't want to completely reveal my thinking process, but I can tell you after the game is over :D.

And then you can tell me how you were wrong about one of them. :D
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby BirdyThePhoenix » Wed May 27, 2015 2:20 pm

What the heck.
I was transported. The transporter must have transported me with Animate, effectively making me ignite. .-. Really.
RIP leyva, you were a good leader. I blame the transporter - and I know exactly who it is too.
Matthew, you are part of the mafia; why give me the information you did in a whisper? I just wonder. The mafia doesn't win with the arsonist.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby BirdyThePhoenix » Wed May 27, 2015 2:22 pm

Matthew, I can see you stalking the chat as well lol
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby ReconMaster » Wed May 27, 2015 3:33 pm

I slept peacefully since no one will target a citizen.
Anyway, I am 100% sure Arc is scum due to how they made the rolelist without me even om there when I am a citizen. Not much I can do to confirm it yet, in the merge however, you will see. If I am killed the invest should still see I am citizen and if I am cleaned then you know that arc is mafia if neither occur the invest will see I am a citizen.

So who are we lynching? I really hope Levya chose the right people to be put in charge of the town, if one is agent....
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Aeolian » Wed May 27, 2015 3:42 pm

birdy... if you didn't want to risk killing leyva, why bother sending in a night action at all?

You were vindictive before, and doused leyva out of spite. You then turned around and swore to us that you wouldn't ignite him.
I don't understand you. I'm just going to assume you do still want to cause damage to the Town.

It was a bad idea not lynching birdy yesterday. Who knows when the merge is going to happen, and if it happens tonight we'll just have one more collective enemy on top of what the other districts need to deal with as well.

If the merge doesn't happen tonight, someone please promise me birdy will be lynched tomorrow. There's no need for this. :roll:
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Aeolian » Wed May 27, 2015 6:31 pm

Sorry for the double post.

On another note, I am slightly worried.
The Mafia as we know it is (Killing), Consigliere, Consigliere, ???

Didn't leyva think that last Mafia member was a Framer?

That could complicate things for the Sheriff.
Unless I've missed something and we do know what the last Mafia member is.
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby BirdyThePhoenix » Wed May 27, 2015 6:40 pm

I didn't want to ignite leyva.
Anyways, I know who the transporter is, and from that, I can pretty much figure out the whole role list.

I want to make it to the merge. I won't douse tonight if that is what it takes. And witch, you would have nothing to accomplish by dousing me, as Leyva is already dead *looks at transporter*
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Re: GFM | Marketplace District | Day 5 (Watch the Market Bur

Postby Animate » Wed May 27, 2015 6:59 pm

Aeolian wrote:Didn't leyva think that last Mafia member was a Framer?

That could complicate things for the Sheriff.
Unless I've missed something and we do know what the last Mafia member is.


I don't think we know for sure. That's why I suggest analyzing our spy results and see if anything comes up.
Leyva's suspicions of there being a framer are probably justified in some way.

Birdy, if you want to prolong your life as long as possible, we'll give you a dousing target. Stray from our commands, and you'll find yourself lynched at the earliest opportunity.
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