Claiming nuetral as VIP?

[kyuss420]

So its VIP mode, and I am the VIP (doc). Day 1 crusader claims as usual, GA claims he is GA (this is what I was hoping for). Day 2 comes, someone claims poisoned and psy gives his vision... the usual 2 TP claims, and the sheriff claims. People cant decide which TP claim is lieing. I claim GA, and the GA starts spamming like hes a hero for finding the first coven, then, as I hoped, the confusion results in the GA and 2 coven voting me, The VIP. The voter on the psy vision (CL) was lynched, and vigi shot the other voter (PM) that night, medusa died to pirate and the GA was poisoned. Day 2 I kept ccing the GA's accusations, hoping for the last coven to vote me, while sheriff gave info, and no roles were claimed...no votes that day.

Night 3 I healed the GA, who was now survivor, as Poisoner had the necro and I cant heal necro poison anyway. The crus was poisoned that night, pirate died to a trap... cue psy vision.... Problem was, poisoner claimed doc and jumped on the GA's healed claim, and nobody, out of the 6 town remaining, took my cc seriously, and I got abused for trolling. Probly reported for not healing the crus too (which was impossible). Town slowly died to poison over the next 3 days, didnt lynch anyone, even tho they got to a 50/50 a couple of times, with me claiming doc and pointing out 3 TP are in the graveyard every day -_- until finally poisoner hit the trapped vig and town won.

So question... Is claiming nuetral as VIP gamethrowing? Is getting coven to put votes on you considered gamethrowing? Is it a valid strategy? I thought I had done well, until town didnt believe my doc claim, but seems like poisoner didnt believe it either. I think with a smarter town, the game may have ended day 3 when I cced the poisoners doc claim.

[TheMaroon5Fan]

I don't like this idea because VIP is a town role

[Watt20I5]

The GA strat does seem to work in practice, but i dont doubt it will confuse/annoy some people.

[TheWinner2015]

So its VIP mode, and I am the VIP (doc). Day 1 crusader claims as usual, GA claims he is GA (this is what I was hoping for). Day 2 comes, someone claims poisoned and psy gives his vision... the usual 2 TP claims, and the sheriff claims. People cant decide which TP claim is lieing. I claim GA, and the GA starts spamming like hes a hero for finding the first coven, then, as I hoped, the confusion results in the GA and 2 coven voting me, The VIP. The voter on the psy vision (CL) was lynched, and vigi shot the other voter (PM) that night, medusa died to pirate and the GA was poisoned. Day 2 I kept ccing the GA's accusations, hoping for the last coven to vote me, while sheriff gave info, and no roles were claimed...no votes that day.

Night 3 I healed the GA, who was now survivor, as Poisoner had the necro and I cant heal necro poison anyway. The crus was poisoned that night, pirate died to a trap... cue psy vision.... Problem was, poisoner claimed doc and jumped on the GA's healed claim, and nobody, out of the 6 town remaining, took my cc seriously, and I got abused for trolling. Probly reported for not healing the crus too (which was impossible). Town slowly died to poison over the next 3 days, didnt lynch anyone, even tho they got to a 50/50 a couple of times, with me claiming doc and pointing out 3 TP are in the graveyard every day -_- until finally poisoner hit the trapped vig and town won.

So question... Is claiming nuetral as VIP gamethrowing? Is getting coven to put votes on you considered gamethrowing? Is it a valid strategy? I thought I had done well, until town didnt believe my doc claim, but seems like poisoner didnt believe it either. I think with a smarter town, the game may have ended day 3 when I cced the poisoners doc claim.

The Real question is: Why did the town, knowing full well that you were the VIP, a confirmed town, think that you were evil?

[kyuss420]

They assumed I was trolling, because they cant come up with plays on their own and usually stick to the sandbox methods, and accuse anyone of not playing sandbox of gamethrowing.

The strat does work, although using it often will stop it from working, I have used it a few times since, in situations where town was losing.

Im VIP trapper, 2 crusaders killed each other on me n1 (town is screwed)..... I claim GA, get the cc and get 4 votes. The GA and 3 coven (1 of which was on psy vision) We lynched the one on psy vision, vigi shot another n2, lynched the 3rd day 3, putting town back in a winning position. Also note, town didnt start screaming to get the guys who voted, or telling vigi to shoot one of the voters (I was the only vote on VIP once..he was on vision, as a PM who healed the CL night 1. 4 town started pushing on me and telling vigi to shoot, which made it obvious to me, that i had voted the VIP... there was no other reason for it, needless to say I killed vip that night, while crus was controlled)

Problem is, with 4 coven, GA and a pirate voting you, it can backfire in certain situations.

[James2]

So its VIP mode, and I am the VIP (doc). Day 1 crusader claims as usual, GA claims he is GA (this is what I was hoping for). Day 2 comes, someone claims poisoned and psy gives his vision... the usual 2 TP claims, and the sheriff claims. People cant decide which TP claim is lieing. I claim GA, and the GA starts spamming like hes a hero for finding the first coven, then, as I hoped, the confusion results in the GA and 2 coven voting me, The VIP. The voter on the psy vision (CL) was lynched, and vigi shot the other voter (PM) that night, medusa died to pirate and the GA was poisoned. Day 2 I kept ccing the GA's accusations, hoping for the last coven to vote me, while sheriff gave info, and no roles were claimed...no votes that day.

Night 3 I healed the GA, who was now survivor, as Poisoner had the necro and I cant heal necro poison anyway. The crus was poisoned that night, pirate died to a trap... cue psy vision.... Problem was, poisoner claimed doc and jumped on the GA's healed claim, and nobody, out of the 6 town remaining, took my cc seriously, and I got abused for trolling. Probly reported for not healing the crus too (which was impossible). Town slowly died to poison over the next 3 days, didnt lynch anyone, even tho they got to a 50/50 a couple of times, with me claiming doc and pointing out 3 TP are in the graveyard every day -_- until finally poisoner hit the trapped vig and town won.

So question... Is claiming nuetral as VIP gamethrowing? Is getting coven to put votes on you considered gamethrowing? Is it a valid strategy? I thought I had done well, until town didnt believe my doc claim, but seems like poisoner didnt believe it either. I think with a smarter town, the game may have ended day 3 when I cced the poisoners doc claim.

It's the same logic as voting up the VIP. Perfectly valid strategy.