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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Ozyrox » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:24 am

This is good :)

This should be something that all new players should read. This should be linked on the TOS page man
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Exacerbated » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:13 pm

NK also can stand for "Night Kill"
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Ozyrox » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:18 pm

Exacerbated wrote:NK also can stand for "Night Kill"


Yeah but that phrase is never used
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Distortion » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:22 pm

Exacerbated wrote:NK also can stand for "Night Kill"

i have never seen that used once in any game of tos ive ever played
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Ozyrox » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:24 pm

Distortion wrote:
Exacerbated wrote:NK also can stand for "Night Kill"

i have never seen that used once in any game of tos ive ever played
ever


You got Ninja'd and yes she is correct. Every kill is a night kill (Except lynch) So it is pointless to use that term
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Arckas » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:29 pm

Fixed everything. Thank you Cyan and OMC especially for telling me my errors.
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Exacerbated » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:33 pm

NK is used as slang in other mafia circles... I'm surprised it hasn't caught on here on Town of Salem.

There is often juxtaposition between players who get lynched more than NK and vice versa.

I.e. in real life people think I'm mafia when I survive longer than 2-3 days because I play like "NK bait" by often taking role bullets for cops and doctors and drawing lots of attention by attempting to mobilize town.

Tbh a lot of players in Town of Salem could improve by just analyzing the Night Kills. Not enough of it happens in the games I play. I think people rely a lot on their night actions for information and not enough on deduction independent of those night actions.

It probably ought to be a phrase people use as NK analysis is ripe with information about player's alignments.
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Exacerbated » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:05 am

Pocketing- when evil roles appeal to a town member, trying to gain their trust and political support and have them vote with evil. (in context "we have the media in our back pocket; they'll only hear what we WANT people to hear" or "WE POCKETED THE SHERIFF SO HARD, APPEARS NS ACTUALLY GODFATHER LULZ") Very common term in high level competitive mafia.
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby lionon » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:29 am

This isn't a thread about what you think should become terminology...
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Arckas » Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:05 am

lionon wrote:This isn't a thread about what you think should become terminology...

Actually it is. It is because I asked for people to do so.
Arckas wrote:If anyone has anything to add, please put it here for debate. I will be adding regularly.

I actually believe in pocketing. I may have never used the term, but I have certainly done the meaning of the word. Especially to mayors and jailers.

I will add that under advanced terminology later. I say advanced because even I had no idea that it had a word. Discuss as much as you like and please don't discourage each other.
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Re: Town of Salem Slang & Terminology

Postby Exacerbated » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:52 am

I play mafia in real life and strong towns will pressure you really hard. A lot of the times you really have to project town and use divide and conquer strategies to win. Pocketing is very effective at accomplishing that.
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ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby KittenLicks » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:35 am

In the average game time is very limited. This is the reason why abbreviations and acronyms such as sk, invest, vet etc have come about. However, looking at sites with forum mafia and older chat mafia sites, there are far more of these helpful acronyms, many of which I have just never seen any players here use. Here are a few examples:

LyLo - Lynch or Lose. A game state in which the town must lynch someone that day or lose the game the following night. I have seen far too many painful games end where the town entered LyLo and nobody took notice of it.

MyLo - MisLynch and lose. Game state where if the town lynches incorrectly they will lose the next night.

Bus - To 'throw your partner under the bus' as Mafia by getting them lynched to gain towncred. People on the forums seem to know it. :)

Townfirm - A confirmed townie. You know, that one you whisper to? I'm getting kinda sick of saying "Guys, he is basically a mayor without 3 votes."

Cc - Counterclaim. A less useful one, but it would be nice to have an easy way to say "Hey, you aren't that role, I am!"

In addition to these basic ones, it would be nice to have some easy acronyms for things unique to ToS. Such as:

L1E1, LyEx, Lynch-Exe, or any other combination that refers to lynching one claim and executing the other when two people claim the same role.

Perma-block - The act of repeatedly jailing or rbing the gf once they are found in order to stop the Mafia killing and allow town investigative roles to work their magic.

T inv, T prot, T supp etc. - Really, any easier way to claim a slot than typing it out.

What terms have you seen in other places that ToS needs? What easier terms do you think there should be for common things in ToS? :)
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby lionon » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:44 am

I don't think the time constrained nature of the game has in particular much to do about it. Any area people over time shorten words for stuff they use more often.

Also language design keeps failing, so it either develops or it doesn't.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby NekoPotato » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:59 am

I normally just use acronyms for town roles like TI and TS, because they actually make sense.
It's a shame when nobody understands me.
Oh, and when I'm Bodyguard and announce "I'm TP!"
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So yeah.
I would like these acronyms to become a thing.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Arckas » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:25 pm

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Here is a whole thread on them. I'll add some of these to those when I'm able too. As I've been hearing about this too.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Exacerbated » Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:33 pm

Pocketing- gaining political support (usually in the context of an evil role) and having them vote with you or do your bidding. A divide and conquer strategy and term that is used in Mafia discussions all the time. You could also use this term when discussing getting key neutrals (Executioners, Jesters, Amnesiacs, Survivors) on your side.

Sometimes as an evil role, I'll try to implicate another townie by trying to associate myself with him or make it look like we're friends.

Vote Logic- analyzing votes to determine people's alignments.

Lurking- attempting to stay under the radar by being quiet or not contributing much to the discussion.

Distancing- when Mafia, to avoid getting caught by associative tells, make it look like they're not together.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Jackergin » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:47 pm

Tbh these terminology would be more useful in FM. The only one that I use is CC. Nobody understands the rest (at least those I'm playing with). In fact if you use these terms you might become a top target for the mafia as they know you are smarter then the rest of the townies
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Gobln » Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:22 pm

Its something that just has to happen over time, we cant shove terminology down peoples throat. In a game recently i said "I Hardclaim Survivor" and nobody knew what that was an lynched me. In something like FM it is much more common knowledge. For things like this to be "added" they need to be used by most of the players.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Echo975 » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:55 pm

I think these kind of acronyms would be more useful in Rapid Mode, since you don't get very much time.
And even then, half the people will have no clue what you're talking about.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby TenNoOkami » Fri Feb 27, 2015 6:03 am

A feel therms i use:

*m/v =mostly utilised when doing Spy work, it means "Mafia Visited" i used it to shorten will information to narrowing down players based on mafia visits. As Spy i found out that you can run out of space on your will really easily by N4 or so depending on how active whispers and mafia chat becomes, so this abreviation always helps me save space on my will, and is largely understood by towns instinctively despite i never see anyone else using it.

*bm'd and rb'd = shortening of 'Blackmailed' and "Role Blocked." faster to type=faster to convey info and also saves space on Wills.

*maf = any mafia member.

*n/s = target is not suspecious = abreviation on doing Sheriff's will.

*FM = Full Moon-so far only relevant when writing Sheriff's will, its a refference to trying to find the werewolf, so it looks like "N2- FM - John Proctor- n/s" = "John proctor is definitly NOT the werewolf."

*Jest = anyone who is trying to hard to look and act like a Jester.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Jackergin » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:15 am

Gobln wrote:Its something that just has to happen over time, we cant shove terminology down peoples throat. In a game recently i said "I Hardclaim Survivor" and nobody knew what that was an lynched me. In something like FM it is much more common knowledge. For things like this to be "added" they need to be used by most of the players.

Those people must be dumb. They don't even know what 'claim' is
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Gobln » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:56 am

Jackergin wrote:
Gobln wrote:Its something that just has to happen over time, we cant shove terminology down peoples throat. In a game recently i said "I Hardclaim Survivor" and nobody knew what that was an lynched me. In something like FM it is much more common knowledge. For things like this to be "added" they need to be used by most of the players.

Those people must be dumb. They don't even know what 'claim' is

They knew what it meant but they said they didnt know what a "hardclaim" is. They said "you can only claim"
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Exacerbated » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:26 am

FoS- Finger of Suspicion

Kokusho's Gambit- The act of claiming Lookout as a Sheriff or Investigator to coax the suspect into divulging more information.

Gobln wrote:
Jackergin wrote:
Gobln wrote:Its something that just has to happen over time, we cant shove terminology down peoples throat. In a game recently i said "I Hardclaim Survivor" and nobody knew what that was an lynched me. In something like FM it is much more common knowledge. For things like this to be "added" they need to be used by most of the players.

Those people must be dumb. They don't even know what 'claim' is

They knew what it meant but they said they didnt know what a "hardclaim" is. They said "you can only claim"


Gobln, clearly you just got outplayed.
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby Gobln » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:09 am

Exacerbated wrote:
Gobln, clearly you just got outplayed.

I was survivor ;-/
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Re: ToS needs a terminology upgrade

Postby KittenLicks » Fri Feb 27, 2015 11:36 am

Exacerbated wrote:FoS- Finger of Suspicion


I would like to second this. FoS is a term I keep wanting to use. Both this term and the mentality behind it (ie. waiting on an investigative is not the only way to catch evil) really needs to find its way into the game somehow.
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