JoltikIsDubby wrote:Yeah, I don't like VFR either, but it's good for town because it can help narrow down the rolelist/claims, which is the primary reason it's used in the first place. I appreciate you looking at the flaws of VFR, but you can't forget there are some positives as well. Saying there is nothing good about VFR is a huge stretch.
Shilster wrote:Then suggest a change, like how Town should only have 2 trials a day, instead of just complaining.
DemonicKraken wrote:Shilster wrote:Then suggest a change, like how Town should only have 2 trials a day, instead of just complaining.
See, thats the worst part. Theres no real, good solution. VFR is a pain and unfair, but there's no solution. This was mostly a vent thread.
Shilster wrote:DemonicKraken wrote:Shilster wrote:Then suggest a change, like how Town should only have 2 trials a day, instead of just complaining.
See, thats the worst part. Theres no real, good solution. VFR is a pain and unfair, but there's no solution. This was mostly a vent thread.
A good strategy is not unfair.
DemonicKraken wrote:Shilster wrote:Then suggest a change, like how Town should only have 2 trials a day, instead of just complaining.
See, thats the worst part. Theres no real, good solution. VFR is a pain and unfair, but there's no solution. This was mostly a vent thread.
DemonicKraken wrote:JoltikIsDubby wrote:Yeah, I don't like VFR either, but it's good for town because it can help narrow down the rolelist/claims, which is the primary reason it's used in the first place. I appreciate you looking at the flaws of VFR, but you can't forget there are some positives as well. Saying there is nothing good about VFR is a huge stretch.
Yes, but its not even fair for evils if VFR. Town does a whole bunch of VFR, and town almost automatically wins. Its not fair.
JoltikIsDubby wrote:DemonicKraken wrote:Shilster wrote:Then suggest a change, like how Town should only have 2 trials a day, instead of just complaining.
See, thats the worst part. Theres no real, good solution. VFR is a pain and unfair, but there's no solution. This was mostly a vent thread.
But maybe you should at least try to consider other peoples' solutions before dismissing them? I think town having only 2 trials a day would certainly be more helpful, but you're just like "nah there's no solution and there never will be".
No solution is going to be perfect, but they can be made to improve the situation.DemonicKraken wrote:JoltikIsDubby wrote:Yeah, I don't like VFR either, but it's good for town because it can help narrow down the rolelist/claims, which is the primary reason it's used in the first place. I appreciate you looking at the flaws of VFR, but you can't forget there are some positives as well. Saying there is nothing good about VFR is a huge stretch.
Yes, but its not even fair for evils if VFR. Town does a whole bunch of VFR, and town almost automatically wins. Its not fair.
But you're suggesting it's never good, according to the title of the thread. It is absolutely good (but not mandatory) for town.
DemonicKraken wrote:JoltikIsDubby wrote:DemonicKraken wrote:Shilster wrote:Then suggest a change, like how Town should only have 2 trials a day, instead of just complaining.
See, thats the worst part. Theres no real, good solution. VFR is a pain and unfair, but there's no solution. This was mostly a vent thread.
But maybe you should at least try to consider other peoples' solutions before dismissing them? I think town having only 2 trials a day would certainly be more helpful, but you're just like "nah there's no solution and there never will be".
No solution is going to be perfect, but they can be made to improve the situation.DemonicKraken wrote:JoltikIsDubby wrote:Yeah, I don't like VFR either, but it's good for town because it can help narrow down the rolelist/claims, which is the primary reason it's used in the first place. I appreciate you looking at the flaws of VFR, but you can't forget there are some positives as well. Saying there is nothing good about VFR is a huge stretch.
Yes, but its not even fair for evils if VFR. Town does a whole bunch of VFR, and town almost automatically wins. Its not fair.
But you're suggesting it's never good, according to the title of the thread. It is absolutely good (but not mandatory) for town.
I changed the title.
Cut wrote:Ranked is a game that revolves around winning.
VFR gives off the illusion that it increases winrates.
You can do the math here, it makes complete sense for a town to employ a strategy like this if they want to win, which is ultimately what ranked is all about.
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DemonicKraken wrote:JoltikIsDubby wrote:Yeah, I don't like VFR either, but it's good for town because it can help narrow down the rolelist/claims, which is the primary reason it's used in the first place. I appreciate you looking at the flaws of VFR, but you can't forget there are some positives as well. Saying there is nothing good about VFR is a huge stretch.
Yes, but its not even fair for evils if VFR. Town does a whole bunch of VFR, and town almost automatically wins. Its not fair.
Firestorm wrote:"When you put a bunch of broken pieces together in the right way, suddenly they don't seem so broken anymore."
Professor Farnsworth wrote:"Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything."
strenuus wrote:It's easy to win as non-town with VFR. You just need to get better.
dyaomaster wrote:strenuus wrote:It's easy to win as non-town with VFR. You just need to get better.
The only problem is you have to get a lot better to use VFR as non-Town than how good you have to get to use VFR as Town.
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