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cob709 wrote:you could get randomly attacked on n1 and die, so survivors would want to vest to prevent that

kyuss420 wrote:

cob709 wrote:you could get randomly attacked on n1 and die, so survivors would want to vest to prevent that

doubt it, i purposely dont vest until at least n4... survivor is so boring, who wouldnt want to be killed early game so they can requeue...... anyone who claims they vested early as survivor deserves to be hanged. Also any surv with a brain would be pushing town to find the NKs early, so that their survivor claim holds up better later on.

Besides that, vests are more important for late game when someone wants to take you out for siding maf/town/coven/NK.

So vesting early is a waste...and even if you die....good, saves playing as a boring role, if you live, you have a better chance of surviving late game.

alex1234321 wrote:I play Classic All Any, and I rarely if ever vest N1 as Survivor. Sometimes when I post my will later in the game people think I'm evil because "all survs vest N1" or something along those lines. In All Any it's common for games to last 6-7 nights with players still having no idea of each other's roles, so I want to have some vests available in case the game goes on for a long time. Statistically, you're more likely to die N5 (given that you're still alive at that point) than N1 because there are far more players alive N1 and most killing roles tend to longer than non-killing roles. Even if there's a small chance that I'm killed N1, it seems like a much smaller risk than vesting N1-4 and getting killed N5 because some Mafia member thinks I'm secretly the Mayor.

Am I missing something that makes vesting N1 a better play?

cob709 wrote:

kyuss420 wrote:

cob709 wrote:you could get randomly attacked on n1 and die, so survivors would want to vest to prevent that

doubt it, i purposely dont vest until at least n4... survivor is so boring, who wouldnt want to be killed early game so they can requeue...... anyone who claims they vested early as survivor deserves to be hanged. Also any surv with a brain would be pushing town to find the NKs early, so that their survivor claim holds up better later on.

Besides that, vests are more important for late game when someone wants to take you out for siding maf/town/coven/NK.

So vesting early is a waste...and even if you die....good, saves playing as a boring role, if you live, you have a better chance of surviving late game.

but that's gamethrowing

kyuss420 wrote:

cob709 wrote:

kyuss420 wrote:

cob709 wrote:you could get randomly attacked on n1 and die, so survivors would want to vest to prevent that

doubt it, i purposely dont vest until at least n4... survivor is so boring, who wouldnt want to be killed early game so they can requeue...... anyone who claims they vested early as survivor deserves to be hanged. Also any surv with a brain would be pushing town to find the NKs early, so that their survivor claim holds up better later on.

Besides that, vests are more important for late game when someone wants to take you out for siding maf/town/coven/NK.

So vesting early is a waste...and even if you die....good, saves playing as a boring role, if you live, you have a better chance of surviving late game.

but that's gamethrowing

if not vesting is gamethrowing, then we should be reporting any survivor that dies n1 - n4

kyuss420 wrote:In practice, ive found the mathematical option works the best over a large number of games....over 100 survivor games, saving all vests for n4+ will win you more games than losing, no matter what happens during the game.

alex1234321 wrote:

kyuss420 wrote:In practice, ive found the mathematical option works the best over a large number of games....over 100 survivor games, saving all vests for n4+ will win you more games than losing, no matter what happens during the game.

N4? That seems a little late considering that the outcome of the game is usually all but determined by N6. Do you have any specific data?