Old player here, struggeling with new ranked meta

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Old player here, struggeling with new ranked meta

Postby itaicool » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:08 pm

So Im not super old but I played a while back with the ranked rolelist that had NK and I remember town being really OP back then basically almost always winning but now I had a couple of games in ranked and in all of them town lost and evil feel very strong basically it looks like now the 4 mafia witch and exe team up and quickly gain majority and Im not sure how to beat them, just looking for your thoughts on the new meta and what works now. Thanks for reading. Also one more thing it looks like there is a guranteed witch and exe everygame Im not wrong right? So basically jesters are gone from ranked. just wanted to confirm that.
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Re: Old player here, struggeling with new ranked meta

Postby Brilliand » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:21 pm

I haven't played Ranked much lately, but the basic idea is Town wins by identifying ALL of the evils (by the fact that they're working together), then systematically killing them. If the whole Town is good, then you can catch them before they get a mislynch, and wipe the floor with them. If you have some bad townies, then Town still has a chance via the Jailor and TK going ham. If the Jailor claimed D1, then he has to execute the Witch first before he can execute anyone else... but again, still possible.

As for the Jester: remember that the Executioner can transform into a Jester, so it's still possible to see a Jester in Ranked.
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Re: Old player here, struggeling with new ranked meta

Postby itaicool » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:31 pm

Brilliand wrote:I haven't played Ranked much lately, but the basic idea is Town wins by identifying ALL of the evils (by the fact that they're working together), then systematically killing them. If the whole Town is good, then you can catch them before they get a mislynch, and wipe the floor with them. If you have some bad townies, then Town still has a chance via the Jailor and TK going ham. If the Jailor claimed D1, then he has to execute the Witch first before he can execute anyone else... but again, still possible.

As for the Jester: remember that the Executioner can transform into a Jester, so it's still possible to see a Jester in Ranked.



Thanks for the reminder about exe turning jester, I forgot and was confused on how a jester was lynched

Also about the witch do you mean the jailor can't exe because she can control him? so I would assume it is viable as a witch to be on a revealed jailor.
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Re: Old player here, struggeling with new ranked meta

Postby OreCreeper » Mon Mar 01, 2021 2:02 pm

itaicool wrote:
Brilliand wrote:I haven't played Ranked much lately, but the basic idea is Town wins by identifying ALL of the evils (by the fact that they're working together), then systematically killing them. If the whole Town is good, then you can catch them before they get a mislynch, and wipe the floor with them. If you have some bad townies, then Town still has a chance via the Jailor and TK going ham. If the Jailor claimed D1, then he has to execute the Witch first before he can execute anyone else... but again, still possible.

As for the Jester: remember that the Executioner can transform into a Jester, so it's still possible to see a Jester in Ranked.



Thanks for the reminder about exe turning jester, I forgot and was confused on how a jester was lynched

Also about the witch do you mean the jailor can't exe because she can control him? so I would assume it is viable as a witch to be on a revealed jailor.

Yeah there is always a witch now and any smart witch would control the jailor n2 or control an escort claim into the jailor (latter is actually more ideal because it counters LO).
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Re: Old player here, struggeling with new ranked meta

Postby kyuss420 » Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:07 am

itaicool wrote:
Brilliand wrote:I haven't played Ranked much lately, but the basic idea is Town wins by identifying ALL of the evils (by the fact that they're working together), then systematically killing them. If the whole Town is good, then you can catch them before they get a mislynch, and wipe the floor with them. If you have some bad townies, then Town still has a chance via the Jailor and TK going ham. If the Jailor claimed D1, then he has to execute the Witch first before he can execute anyone else... but again, still possible.

As for the Jester: remember that the Executioner can transform into a Jester, so it's still possible to see a Jester in Ranked.



Thanks for the reminder about exe turning jester, I forgot and was confused on how a jester was lynched

Also about the witch do you mean the jailor can't exe because she can control him? so I would assume it is viable as a witch to be on a revealed jailor.


Its always been viable for witch to be on confirmed jailor, the community has just caught up to it since its a constant ranked role now and has to work with maf to win. Previously people were just ''oh I rolled witch, guess I lose this one'' and never put any thought into how to utilise the role. Its even a hard counter to chain blocking the MK (by controlling jailor into MK) if it needs to be.
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