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TiberianSun371AlexW wrote:Jesters haunt Mayors for no good reason instead of ransoming whenever there is a revealed mayor.
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ElleJoy wrote:The absolute only time I will execute jester/exe as Jailor is if they're being intentionally obnoxious/distracting to town and it's clear they're evil. Otherwise, I usually just ask exe who their target is (thus almost guaranteeing a confirmed townie (they may lie, but that's a weird strat)) and with Jester, will try to give them a win if there's room for it once evils have been identified. Honestly, I wish they'd just call Jester/Exe plain old "neutral" rather than "neutral evil" -- When I play exe/jester, I have a tendency to try and help town as much as possible because A.) I'm bored and B.) Town is more likely to lynch you in the end than Mafia (cause less mafia members = more chance of being screwed over by jester kill). What frustrates me is when someone tells you you're supposed to side with evils as jester/exe, just because it's in your name. I get the point is to lynch your target/be lynched but let's be real - 99% of the time the strategies fail because it's obvious or your target ends up being confirmed vet/ret/whatever. It's my personal opinion the roles need a renovation as a whole... but the biggest issue I see is that there's no TRUE neutral position in ToS and this would be a great opportunity for that.
kyuss420 wrote:ElleJoy wrote:The absolute only time I will execute jester/exe as Jailor is if they're being intentionally obnoxious/distracting to town and it's clear they're evil. Otherwise, I usually just ask exe who their target is (thus almost guaranteeing a confirmed townie (they may lie, but that's a weird strat)) and with Jester, will try to give them a win if there's room for it once evils have been identified. Honestly, I wish they'd just call Jester/Exe plain old "neutral" rather than "neutral evil" -- When I play exe/jester, I have a tendency to try and help town as much as possible because A.) I'm bored and B.) Town is more likely to lynch you in the end than Mafia (cause less mafia members = more chance of being screwed over by jester kill). What frustrates me is when someone tells you you're supposed to side with evils as jester/exe, just because it's in your name. I get the point is to lynch your target/be lynched but let's be real - 99% of the time the strategies fail because it's obvious or your target ends up being confirmed vet/ret/whatever. It's my personal opinion the roles need a renovation as a whole... but the biggest issue I see is that there's no TRUE neutral position in ToS and this would be a great opportunity for that.
Yawn @ townie sided nuetrals... if your exe target has lived long enough to be confirmed, then no wonder youre bored, cos youve done fuck all for days and let them be confirmed.... guessing your strategy is hoping town will be ''nice'' and give you a win in exchange for your vote (arso and WW wont like that tho). Yes, that is a very boring way to play exe.
If your strategies are failing 99% of the time, then you have shit strategies. I think my win rate with exe and jester would be +80% because I dont side with anyone. I dont help town, I dont help maf, I make my plays early when its easier to confuse town, rather than late when most of the players are confirmed, I mean, if your target is confirmed vet, you may as well help mafia gain majority, because chances are they are going to lynch him at some stage... for jester it can be as simple as claiming medium and posting a shit will day 3, or claiming RBed if theres no maf kill, or attacked and healed if theres no maf kill.
kyuss420 wrote:99% failure rate vs 80% success rate.
''opinions''
EqsyLootz wrote:Neutral evils side with mafia. So it's just like killing a mafia member.
kyuss420 wrote:EqsyLootz wrote:Neutral evils side with mafia. So it's just like killing a mafia member.
well, mafia should be siding with the nuetral evils
Nyricanmini wrote:First post btw.
As an excuse if i end up being wrong about all this, i've only gotten back into the game about a month and a half ago after playing back around 2015, so i'm a bit nooby. Also this was Ranked Practice, so everyone kinda sucks.
So i was playing Jailor just now, and someone (We'll call them Person 1) claiming LO pointed out someone else as SK(we'll call them Person 2), saying they visited the person who the SK killed. Town believed that Person 1 was exe, trying to target town and had said, "Jailor exe them" I had decided that, yes, they could be exe trying to hang the man, or jester trying to get themselves hung, but i didn't want to waste an execution on them. The reason i say this is because the Jailor can work as a Town Investigative role and Town Killing role at the same time. I believed that I would be more useful to town by finding out roles than to just kill the Exe/Jester. The only exception imo would be if it's Mid/Late game and maf could potentially use them as an extra vote.
After the whole Person 1 ordeal, someone calls for VFR on Person 3, who had gotten defensive and been like "VFR sucks bro, never VFR guys." I thought he was a little sus for trying to avoid claiming, so I jailed them to get their role. I asked for their role, but they had begun to bitch about how VFR sucks, and you should never VFR Day 2, blah blah blah. Since he hadn't claimed, i made the decision to execute him. Person 3 ended up being Vet.
Town begun to bitch about how i hadn't killed the obvious Exe/Jester, and I defended myself saying that i didn't want to waste an exe.
The following night i died.
Person 1 had died the next night, and he ended up actually being LO,. In the end, it wouldn't have mattered, as i would still lose my exes, but should i still have exed him because he seemed to be an obvious Exe/Jester at the time?
Kuter wrote:All in all, don't let it get to you, let the whiners complain, yeah its annoying when people get on your ass because you don't play how they want you to play, but that's online for you.
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