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Is this fair?

Postby crapshit69 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:59 pm

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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Naru2008 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:08 pm

No, it isn't fair, but I hope you reported that user for saying 'niba'.

It's a valid tactic, but it can be costly, so it's stupid to really risk that.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby BlastingOff » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:17 am

It's more or less metagaming. I don't personally like it myself, it causes more misexecutions than correct ones.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby gorilla578 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:59 am

BlastingOff wrote:It's more or less metagaming. I don't personally like it myself, it causes more misexecutions than correct ones.


I wouldn't call it MGing. It's a legitimate tactic that mainly places pressure on your captives to make a claim. It does catch bad Mafia who crack at the pressure.

It's not the best because good Mafia come prepared; and at a certain level it punishes slow typers.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby flairric66 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:22 am

Jailors who do the obnoxious countdown thing are not very good.
You have the entire night to talk to the jailor for a reason.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby SparkingJayYT » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:11 am

gorilla578 wrote:It's not the best because good Mafia come prepared; and at a certain level it punishes slow typers.

Slow typers or slow brained? Most of the time when I metagame the person jailed always acts stupid and doesn't know what I mean regardless of alignment.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby SparkingJayYT » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:13 am

flairric66 wrote:Jailors who do the obnoxious countdown thing are not very good.
You have the entire night to talk to the jailor for a reason.

It places pressure on the jailed person, townies would claim instantly during N1 whilst evils wouldn't expect to be jailed so would have nothing to claim and therefore force them to say any role without thinking of how it will affect the rest of the game.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Joacgroso » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:11 pm

Even if there is no countdown, they have the same pressure because they know claiming late will be sus af. Also, those 3 seconds make no difference with the predictions: the mafia still won't know how their claim will affect the game.
I'm not saying this strategy is bad though. I think claiming late is a valid reason to execute someone, although I wouldn't do it.

edit: Also, what is typing slow supposed to do with anything? You only have to type up to 4 or 5 letters in 3 seconds. People can't be that slow.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Flavorable » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:27 pm

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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Joacgroso » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:57 pm

Does that mark the post as unread?
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby flairric66 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:06 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:It places pressure on the jailed person, whilst evils wouldn't expect to be jailed so would have nothing to claim


Just the very nature of being jailed is enough to place pressure on the player.
Why would evils not expect to be jailed? Any player in the game can be jailed at any time.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Joacgroso » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:26 pm

He probably meant the odds of being jailed are pretty low in earlygame, I guess?
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby SparkingJayYT » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:38 am

flairric66 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:It places pressure on the jailed person, whilst evils wouldn't expect to be jailed so would have nothing to claim


Just the very nature of being jailed is enough to place pressure on the player.
Why would evils not expect to be jailed? Any player in the game can be jailed at any time.

When has anyone said to themselves “Yeah imma get jailed N1/N2? Probability says you are very unlikely to get jailed until you actually are. Start of N1 if you seriously already figured out a role to claim then cool. If you haven’t which the majority of players don’t, they normally spit out a random claim without thinking of the consequences for claiming that role in lategame.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby flairric66 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:06 am

No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby SparkingJayYT » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:36 am

flairric66 wrote:No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.

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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Google » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:41 am

flairric66 wrote:No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.

Their objective is to win



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Re: Is this fair?

Postby kosmo16 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:51 am

SparkingJayYT wrote:
flairric66 wrote:No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.

no


Sparking is right. You shouldn't claim randomly. What you claim n1/n2 depends on many factors, what is your role, what is your plan for the game, what is Mafia setup, how good evil you are, how good are your teammates, is this Jailor meta, how many people was killed N1, did Town mislynched D2, etc. It of course require practice to know if you should claim Sheriff or Mayor.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby Google » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:52 am

kosmo16 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
flairric66 wrote:No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.

no


Sparking is right. You shouldn't claim randomly. What you claim n1/n2 depends on many factors, what is your role, what is your plan for the game, what is Mafia setup, how good evil you are, how good are your teammates, is this Jailor meta, how many people was killed N1, did Town mislynched D2, etc. It of course require practice to know if you should claim Sheriff or Mayor.

Why are you claiming mayor



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Re: Is this fair?

Postby kosmo16 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:53 am

Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
flairric66 wrote:No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.

no


Sparking is right. You shouldn't claim randomly. What you claim n1/n2 depends on many factors, what is your role, what is your plan for the game, what is Mafia setup, how good evil you are, how good are your teammates, is this Jailor meta, how many people was killed N1, did Town mislynched D2, etc. It of course require practice to know if you should claim Sheriff or Mayor.

Why are you claiming mayor


You will learn it at some point.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby flairric66 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:07 am

Google wrote:Their objective is to win


That is everyone's objective and, thus, an irrelevant point here.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby kosmo16 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:30 am

kosmo16 wrote:
Google wrote:
kosmo16 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:
flairric66 wrote:No. The objective of evils is to keep town guessing and stall them long enough to gain the advantage. A random claim does not have to hold them all game, so they don't have to consider late game consequences.

no


Sparking is right. You shouldn't claim randomly. What you claim n1/n2 depends on many factors, what is your role, what is your plan for the game, what is Mafia setup, how good evil you are, how good are your teammates, is this Jailor meta, how many people was killed N1, did Town mislynched D2, etc. It of course require practice to know if you should claim Sheriff or Mayor.

Why are you claiming mayor


You will learn it at some point.


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Re: Is this fair?

Postby flairric66 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:18 pm

SparkingJayYT wrote:no


No what?
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby SparkingJayYT » Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:00 pm

flairric66 wrote:
SparkingJayYT wrote:no


No what?

no yes
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby flairric66 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:34 am

Maybe so.
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Re: Is this fair?

Postby lalasex » Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:20 am

okay this post again proves that ToS community plays the game where it must require reading skills yet you all failed it really hard


he LITERALLY exed someone because they failed to copy-past will under 3 fucking seconds. the whole thing takes 5 seconds + it depends if their full will was not enough for the chat so they might post n4-nx actions...

like you exe someone cuz they were busy copying long ass(like literally had 5 visitors in some point of the night) lookout LEGIT will under 1 second? or because they didnt claim for 15 seconds and only said hi?

EVEN if its that the case (and then you are actually retarded)...the guy who posted a screenshot made it under 3 seconds quite fine and spy will should have the part whether hes alive or dead...BUT jailor clearly stated "sorry niba (lmfao imagine using niba in the end of this decant cant relate) you were late for some dumbass metagame trick so im exeing you no matter of your will and how you behaved yourself via game"

bitches please....either learn how to read or buy glasses ty
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