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Assailant

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:12 am
by Seththeking
Assailant

Alignment: Neutral Killing

Biography: You are a trained silent
Assailant who kills in the shadows and kills anyone who is a threat towards them.

Attack: Unstoppable
Defence: Basic

Abilities:
Each night you may mark someone
You can mark someone multiple times

Attributes:
Marking someone is Astral Visiting
If your roleblocked you will mark your Roleblocker
If a player votes for a player who is marked, the player who voted for them will get killed by the Assailant right there during the day and that mark will go away.
The attack is Unstoppable.
Once you die, all marks will disappear
If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!
You may not mark yourself Night 1.

Goal: Neutral Killing Win Con

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:28 pm
by Brilliand
He can't mark himself or kill himself, right?

While he sounds scary, I'm pretty sure his ability will herd the town right into lynching him. They're not going to vote a player who previously had a mark set off, and that will quickly force them to catch the Assailant by process of elimination.

This role will also encourage weird habits like expendable players voting every other player to check for marks. :p

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:06 pm
by Seththeking
Brilliand wrote:He can't mark himself or kill himself, right?

While he sounds scary, I'm pretty sure his ability will herd the town right into lynching him. They're not going to vote a player who previously had a mark set off, and that will quickly force them to catch the Assailant by process of elimination.

This role will also encourage weird habits like expendable players voting every other player to check for marks. :p


He can mark and kill himself (don’t know why he would want to kill himself though)

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:07 pm
by Seththeking
Keep in mind, Marks can stack.

He can pick the same target 3 nights in a row.

An example of how this role works is let’s say you Target Bob.
Carly Votes Bob the next day.
Carly Dies by Assailant! 1 Mark Is moved from Bob.

Also I may make it so if they mark themselves they lose their basic defence to avoid them being a Day Tank.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:44 am
by Seththeking
Could I have some more feedback please! :)

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:20 pm
by Seththeking
**Bump**

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:54 pm
by Brilliand
Yeah, stacking self-marks might be rather overpowered. He hides like an Arsonist, and eventually becomes unlynchable. Losing basic defense doesn't help if the Mafia is losing and there's no Vigilante.

On the other hand, this role can easily be forced into a draw when he would otherwise win. If everyone simply refrains from voting, then the Assailant can't kill anyone, and so can't complete his goal.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:57 pm
by Google
Brilliand wrote:Yeah, stacking self-marks might be rather overpowered. He hides like an Arsonist, and eventually becomes unlynchable. Losing basic defense doesn't help if the Mafia is losing and there's no Vigilante.

On the other hand, this role can easily be forced into a draw when he would otherwise win. If everyone simply refrains from voting, then the Assailant can't kill anyone, and so can't complete his goal.

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:28 pm
by Seththeking
Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:50 pm
by Brilliand
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:20 am
by Seththeking
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:36 am
by Google
Seththeking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
if people refuse to vote they are done with this
also only allow one mark on self all game

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:40 am
by Seththeking
Google wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
if people refuse to vote they are done with this
also only allow one mark on self all game


But this isn’t Arsonist/Hex Master this is Assailant.
Also I don’t like the only one mark on Self.
Maybe some other kind of nerf? I don’t know I’ll think about it.
I do have a Discord Server so I can just test it on there.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:04 pm
by Google
Seththeking wrote:
Google wrote:
Seththeking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
Seththeking wrote:Made it so if it’s a draw they win be default.


I don't think this role has the right theme for winning in a draw. IMO it would be better to keep the goal and win conditions unchanged, and give him a secondary way to kill in case he successfully stops all voting.


How’s this:

If no one voted during the pervious day, during the next day you may target someone using the day icon and kill them right in the day!

add to the goal 'or all that oppose you are marked'
if people refuse to vote they are done with this
also only allow one mark on self all game


But this isn’t Arsonist/Hex Master this is Assailant.
Also I don’t like the only one mark on Self.
Maybe some other kind of nerf? I don’t know I’ll think about it.
I do have a Discord Server so I can just test it on there.

1.who cares that it isn't arsonist or hex master, this is better than deciding if no one voted yesterday you get a dayshot
2.Being able to just stack marks on yourself is too op
3.stop telling everybody about your discord server I hear it too much

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:20 pm
by Brilliand
I kinda want the marked players to die off one at a time.

How about: Each mark only lasts for up to 3 days. When any player other than the Assailant stays marked for 3 days, they're killed in the night (Unstoppable attack).

This makes it only possible to have up to 3 self-marks at the time.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:10 pm
by Google
Brilliand wrote:I kinda want the marked players to die off one at a time.

How about: Each mark only lasts for up to 3 days. When any player other than the Assailant stays marked for 3 days, they're killed in the night (Unstoppable attack).

This makes it only possible to have up to 3 self-marks at the time.

thats a stalker mod

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:17 pm
by Brilliand
There's also the option of making this role into a Coven role. Unreliable kill methods are kind of the Coven's thing.

Re: Assailant

PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:57 pm
by Seththeking
IMO.
If it gets to the point where you have yourself marked so much you win then you should win.
I’ll edit it so you can’t mark yourself Night 1.