Eulogist (Mafia Support)

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Stupendous!
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Pretty good
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Pretty good, but needs some work
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I like the idea, but bad execution
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Not very good
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An abomination
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Total votes : 20

Re: Eulogist (Mafia Support)

Postby Mystoc » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:39 pm

its only useful with sherrif, lo or inves thats it, otherwise its a worse consort, i didn't say it was useless i said it was a worse consort
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Re: Eulogist (Mafia Support)

Postby Silver1906 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:35 am

Mystoc wrote:its only useful with sherrif, lo or inves thats it, otherwise its a worse consort, i didn't say it was useless i said it was a worse consort


I agree that those ones you mentioned are its best options, but I feel there's a few other roles it could take advantage of.

Either way, as I've mentioned to someone else in a previous reply, having the possibility of a Eulogist in the rolelist can change towns behaviour to be more in mafias favour. For example, Jailors possibly might not jail the night after executing an evil unless they are certain their target is evil or Eulogist could make them execute.

It also can touch Escorts and Transporters which is something Consort cannot do at all. Escorts are technically 'roleblocked' and Innocent townies could possibly be blocked if you target an Escort, and Transporters are effectively nullified if the same two targets are swapped.

I agree that on paper Consort seems much stronger, but I feel there is a lot of unique niches Eulogist fills. Maybe it would be a good role with a buff?
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Re: Eulogist (Mafia Support)

Postby Silver1906 » Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:25 am

Another bump to get more opinions.
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Re: Eulogist (Mafia Support)

Postby Silver1906 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:49 am

Yet another bump.
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Re: Eulogist (Mafia Support)

Postby Kombinator1991 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:34 am

Mystoc wrote:its only useful with sherrif, lo or inves thats it, otherwise its a worse consort, i didn't say it was useless i said it was a worse consort


And TP, and jailor, escort, and trans.

Trans normally immune to RB, but with this he can made predictible, and mess with it's own, and through that everyone's results.

jailor can be made to execute whoever is jailed. And mafia knows, if fellow member is jailed.

Escort can be made to keep blocking the same non-mafia target. Again bypass RB.

TP can be kept on same target making it predictible. Exceptionally useful, if TP was on a maf. member for some reason.
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Re: Eulogist (Mafia Support)

Postby Silver1906 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:48 pm

Kombinator1991 wrote:And TP, and jailor, escort, and trans.

Trans normally immune to RB, but with this he can made predictible, and mess with it's own, and through that everyone's results.

jailor can be made to execute whoever is jailed. And mafia knows, if fellow member is jailed.

Escort can be made to keep blocking the same non-mafia target. Again bypass RB.

TP can be kept on same target making it predictible. Exceptionally useful, if TP was on a maf. member for some reason.



These are my thoughts as well, I am glad someone is on the same wavelength as me here.
TP on evil is admittedly very hard and unlikely to be pulled off, but it's still worth mentioning from the possible power it could give if you manage to set it up, so I'm pleased you mentioned that while everyone else seems to brush it off.

ScorpioDiAngelo wrote:Trust me when I say that this idea is good. Nust look at some of my other comments in the role ideas sub froum and you'll find I wouldn't say this if I didn't think it was.


Well I'm quite surprised I've managed to impress a critic. It definitely needs more work but it's good to know I'm heading in the right direction!
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