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Conqueror (Neutral Chaos)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:56 am
by Brilliand
Role Name: Conqueror

Role Alignment: Neutral Chaos

Abilities:

Each night, the Conqueror can choose two targets: one to kill, and one to heal. He must use both abilities in the same night, or nothing will happen.

Attributes:
  • The Conqueror's heal is identical to the Doctor's heal; however, he cannot heal himself.
  • If the Conqueror is controlled by a witch, the witch will control his attack but not his heal.

Notifications:

(Standard kill messages, plus Doctor heal messages)

Goal: Reduce every other faction to a single member. At least two other factions must survive.

Win Conditions:
  • The Conqueror wins if there are at least two other players alive, and no two of the other living players can win with each other.
  • Roles whose wincon does not depend on any other player's wincon, such as Survivors, Jesters and Executioners, do not count toward the Conqueror's wincon.
  • When the Conqueror wins, the game ends immediately, and all other factions lose.
  • If there is only one other faction alive, the Conqueror loses, and that faction does not have to kill him to win.
You win with Witches
You win with Survivors
You may spare anyone else.

Special Attributes:
Unique Role
Attack: Basic
Defense: Basic

Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious!
Investigator - Your target could be a Doctor, Disguiser, Serial Killer or Conqueror.
Consigliere - Your target is trying to divide the town into small, squabbling groups. They must be a Conqueror.

Achievements:

Keeping the Balance: Win the game immediately after preventing a kill with your heal
Many Enemies: Win with at least three other factions left alive

Additional Information:

This is a repost of the Conqueror role I made on reddit, which was named Thanos until I decided to be serious and make it an actual suggestion.

It could probably use a rename. I don't think Conqueror is the best name for this idea, but I haven't thought of anything better yet.

Lore:

The Conqueror is based on the concept that a disliked ruler can hold his position by playing his subjects off against each other, preventing any one of them from becoming strong enough to challenge him. He takes this a step further by gaining dominance over the town through this same method of playing factions against each other.

Changelog:
2022-04-4
  • Changed Conqueror's color from #4080FF to #2810FF to keep it from conflicting with Serial Killer
  • Made the wording of Conqueror's wincon more general to clarify that some Coven Expansion roles and other people's role ideas can also be exceptions
2022-04-15
  • Changed Conqueror's Investigator results from the Escort resultset to the Doctor resultset

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:22 pm
by itaicool
Getting the goal sounds hard, but the role sounds fun.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:47 pm
by greenrabbit7
This is a fun and unique role.

/support

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:55 am
by largewhale96
I love this


/mega support

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:51 am
by SpacePiggy123
/support

Why don't bmg just add this already, This is nice

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:55 am
by ShedShade
Great Idea
/support

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:10 pm
by Manvir06
Just imagine this getting the any slot when rainbow was a thing.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 7:19 am
by Zyprexa2024
/support

sounds fun to play, but doctor is the obvious claim, TP doesn't need to be a more sus claim than it already is. I like the idea, but where the game is now it would make things worse.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 2:19 pm
by RedWolfNJW
/support

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:09 am
by number2345432
The win conditions and goals are really weird. Imagine being a serial killer, finally managing to kill everyone and one of the other guys is the mafioso. Then, yu think your about to win, but all of a sudden this other guy comes from no where and just wins the whole game.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:25 am
by PleaseReadSiege
number2345432 wrote:The win conditions and goals are really weird. Imagine being a serial killer, finally managing to kill everyone and one of the other guys is the mafioso. Then, yu think your about to win, but all of a sudden this other guy comes from no where and just wins the whole game.

It wouldn't come from nowhere if the conqueror has been attacking people during the game. You'll see that people are dying to him, so you'll know that you need to get him hanged before it gets to the final 3

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:21 pm
by Brilliand
number2345432 wrote:The win conditions and goals are really weird. Imagine being a serial killer, finally managing to kill everyone and one of the other guys is the mafioso. Then, yu think your about to win, but all of a sudden this other guy comes from no where and just wins the whole game.


There are other roles that can steal the Serial Killer's win in that situation. A hidden Werewolf, or a hidden Arsonist, or even a hidden Bodyguard who decides to protect the Mafioso.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:48 am
by PleaseReadSiege
This needs some elaboration on how it would work in something crazy like coven all any. Picture this: You can have an arso, WW, SK, PB, vampires, coven, and mafia all in the same game with the conqueror. You're saying the conqueror needs to have 1 of each of these alive in order to win? What happens if just one of these factions completely dies? Does the conqueror have no chance of winning now for the rest of the game?

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 2:28 pm
by Brilliand
PleaseReadSiege wrote:This needs some elaboration on how it would work in something crazy like coven all any. Picture this: You can have an arso, WW, SK, PB, vampires, coven, and mafia all in the same game with the conqueror. You're saying the conqueror needs to have 1 of each of these alive in order to win? What happens if just one of these factions completely dies? Does the conqueror have no chance of winning now for the rest of the game?


The Conquerer only needs 2 other factions to survive. The main requirement is that every faction that does survive needs to be reduced to a single member.

Example: the arso gets lynched, the vamp/coven/maf/town all get killed at night, there was only one SK all along. Conqueror wins with the WW/SK/Pestilence still alive.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2019 9:53 pm
by Duckferno
/support

this is epic

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:23 pm
by PiedTheSlowbro
/support

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:03 am
by lemonader666
Neutral Chaos. Neutral fucking Chaos. Fucking brilliant.

Re: Conqueror

PostPosted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 12:52 pm
by Brilliand
ScratchCat wrote:so it wins with survs yet they don't count as a faction(I'm guessing cuz they win with everyone)


Yep. None of the existing factions care about survivors, jesters or executioners, so it's better if the Conqueror doesn't care about those roles either.