Bomber

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Bomber

Postby Mikemk » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:58 am

Name: Bomber
Alignment: Mafia
Abilities: Bomb a person's house at night.
Attributes: Once a game, can visit someone's house, dealing a powerful attack to the target, and a basic attack to everyone else visiting target, including yourself. (powerful with basic rampage)
Special Attributes: If roleblocked, detonate at your own house (dealing powerful attack to self). If jailed, detonate on jailor.
Goal: Kill everyone who would oppose the Mafia
Win Conditions:
  • Must kill the Town
  • Wins with Survivors
  • Wins with the Mafia
  • Must kill the Coven
  • Must kill Serial Killers
  • Must kill Arsonists
  • Wins with Witches
  • Must kill Werewolves
  • Must kill Vampires
Investigative Results:
Sheriff: Your target is a member of the Mafia
Investigator: Escort, Transporter, Consort, Bomber, or Hypnotist
Consigliere: Your target plays with clocks and explosives. They must be a Bomber.
Additional Information: Since it's so potentially OP, it's a very rare role, like a Juggernaut. Doctor would still protect the target due to giving powerful defense, but the Doctor will die (unless there's another Doctor on them). Bodyguard/Trapper/Crusader would kill the bomber without the bomb detonating.
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Re: Bomber

Postby Mikemk » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:08 am

Perhaps it would be a replacement for mafioso
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Re: Bomber

Postby SizzlingFlames » Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:04 am

I like this, would be nice if BMG adds this into the game.
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Re: Bomber

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Too much KPN, it's pretty much a mafia WW that kills itself.
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Re: Bomber

Postby joefischerxxx » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:56 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:Too much KPN, it's pretty much a mafia WW that kills itself.

But then the mafia would be down a member and voter. They would have to know if it would really be worth it to detonate. I like this idea.
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Re: Bomber

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:02 pm

joefischerxxx wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Too much KPN, it's pretty much a mafia WW that kills itself.

But then the mafia would be down a member and voter. They would have to know if it would really be worth it to detonate. I like this idea.

Yes, but take the example of the jailor meta:

Bomber targets jailor claim n1, 2 TPs and a lookout that were on the jailor die, along with the bomber. Assume an SK kills a town, it's 5v5 D2 and town has minimal chance to win, just because 3 people died to a scum n1. This could also easily happen by accident, making this role OP.
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Re: Bomber

Postby itaicool » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:50 pm

Chemist1422 wrote:
joefischerxxx wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Too much KPN, it's pretty much a mafia WW that kills itself.

But then the mafia would be down a member and voter. They would have to know if it would really be worth it to detonate. I like this idea.

Yes, but take the example of the jailor meta:

Bomber targets jailor claim n1, 2 TPs and a lookout that were on the jailor die, along with the bomber. Assume an SK kills a town, it's 5v5 D2 and town has minimal chance to win, just because 3 people died to a scum n1. This could also easily happen by accident, making this role OP.



The fact that it counters jailor meta is actually good in my opinion, the meta need to change. However it does seem a bit OP targeting any confirmed townie.
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Re: Bomber

Postby Chemist1422 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:55 pm

itaicool wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:
joefischerxxx wrote:
Chemist1422 wrote:Too much KPN, it's pretty much a mafia WW that kills itself.

But then the mafia would be down a member and voter. They would have to know if it would really be worth it to detonate. I like this idea.

Yes, but take the example of the jailor meta:

Bomber targets jailor claim n1, 2 TPs and a lookout that were on the jailor die, along with the bomber. Assume an SK kills a town, it's 5v5 D2 and town has minimal chance to win, just because 3 people died to a scum n1. This could also easily happen by accident, making this role OP.



The fact that it counters jailor meta is actually good in my opinion, the meta need to change. However it does seem a bit OP targeting any confirmed townie.

Jailor meta was just an example, if 2 non-TP roles and this role visit any townie N1 town can lose majority simply by bad luck.
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Re: Bomber

Postby OreCreeper » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:41 pm

I think it might be good if this role replaces the Mafia kill instead, so Mafia can't kill that night.
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Re: Bomber

Postby Mikemk » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:31 pm

I agree with orecreeper. And you'd have to be sure you want to reveal when asking for tp/lo.
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Re: Bomber

Postby BlastingOff » Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:34 pm

OreCreeper wrote:I think it might be good if this role replaces the Mafia kill instead, so Mafia can't kill that night.


Agree with this, maybe make it so that if Mafioso/GF chooses a target, Bomber wouldn't do anything even if they chose someone
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Re: Bomber

Postby WhenThough » Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:29 pm

BlastingOff wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:I think it might be good if this role replaces the Mafia kill instead, so Mafia can't kill that night.


Agree with this, maybe make it so that if Mafioso/GF chooses a target, Bomber wouldn't do anything even if they chose someone


So Mafioso/GF doesn't do anything until the bomber dies? It renders the rest of the MKs to be obsolete, just there for backup. At least, that's what I expect if this role were implemented.

As for my opinion on this role, it's quite OP and the rarity to compensate that seems to be poor role design. Just my opinion though.
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Re: Bomber

Postby joefischerxxx » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:53 pm

BlastingOff wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:I think it might be good if this role replaces the Mafia kill instead, so Mafia can't kill that night.


Agree with this, maybe make it so that if Mafioso/GF chooses a target, Bomber wouldn't do anything even if they chose someone

Maybe the GF could force the bomber to attack too.
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