Trainer (Neutral Chaos)

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Trainer (Neutral Chaos)

Postby KingArmaan » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:25 am

Role name: Trainer
Alignment: Neutral (Evil)
Attack: None | Defense: Basic(temporary; auto-vests until he is attacked)
Abilities: Deploy an animal.
Attributes:
- You have three animals; the Lion, the Pigeon, and the Cat.
- The Lion has Powerful attack and Basic Defense. It can rampage at anyone's or the Trainer's house, but will not kill the trainer.
- The Pigeon will tell you the role and last will of your target. It is not affected by douses, hexes and framings.
- The Cat will heal your target and give them Powerful Defense.
- Each pet's ability has a three-day cooldown.
- You wear a bulletproof vest which gives you Basic defense until you are attacked.
Additional Mechanics:
- Your pets will die if they visit a Veteran or attack a rampaged target's house. The Lion and the Bodyguard/Veteran will kill each other, where as the Pigeon's news bypasses the Bodyguard protection.
Investigative results: Doctor, Disguiser, Serial Killer, Potion Master, or Trainer.
Consigliere/Coven Leader/Witch: Your target trains animals to use them for evil purposes. They must be a Trainer.
Special attributes: Unique role
Wins with: Mafia, Vampires, Witch, Trainer, Survivor, Arsonist, Serial Killer, and Werewolf
Must kill: Town
Goal: Live to see the Town lose the game.
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Re: Trainer (Neutral Evil)

Postby oOYuuArtSuiOo » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:26 am

No.
This shouldnt be ne this should be nc as it can help both evils and town.
Also this role is a combination rehash of WW, Doctor and Consigliere.
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Re: Trainer (Neutral Evil)

Postby KingArmaan » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:52 am

If the alignment is the only thing you disagree with, that can be fixed, but how can it help Town, while its Goal is to live to see the Town lose the game.
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Re: Trainer (Neutral Evil)

Postby fwogcarf » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:55 am

Already been suggested and rejected
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Re: Trainer (Neutral Evil)

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:43 pm

Neutral Evil roles should never have the ability to kill. They are meant to Support the Evils but not increase the Killing Cap. You should balance all NEs around Witch with No Consigliere results (because that shouldn't exist).
RNG is never good for any strategy based game. Please learn the definition of what that means, especially if you're one of the people constantly defending it.

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Re: Trainer (Neutral Evil)

Postby oOYuuArtSuiOo » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:59 am

KingArmaan wrote:If the alignment is the only thing you disagree with, that can be fixed, but how can it help Town, while its Goal is to live to see the Town lose the game.


- The Cat will heal your target and give them Powerful Defense.
Also from Lion as it can kill evils because rampage.

Bad overall.

Even if the goal is to see town lose the game, it can indirectly help town.
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YuuArtSui explained it pretty well.

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Re: Trainer (Neutral Chaosl)

Postby KingArmaan » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:20 am

oOYuuArtSuiOo wrote:
KingArmaan wrote:If the alignment is the only thing you disagree with, that can be fixed, but how can it help Town, while its Goal is to live to see the Town lose the game.


- The Cat will heal your target and give them Powerful Defense.
Also from Lion as it can kill evils because rampage.

Bad overall.

Even if the goal is to see town lose the game, it can indirectly help town.

I did change the alignment, but just to make clear the Cat is intended to heal evil roles and the Lion is for the same purpose, but then again, even Neutral Evils like witch can kill Mafia members(indirectly helping Town), and the Jester can do the same by haunting a Mafia member.
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Re: Trainer (Neutral Chaos)

Postby TheWinner2015 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:02 pm

This is basically a Potion Master but instead of the ability to kill one person it would be able to kill 1+ people.
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