Forger buff(V 1.1)

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Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby KingArmaan » Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:21 pm

Role name: Forger
Alignment: Mafia (Deception)
Abilities: Decide in the day who to forge and write your forgery during the day and night.
Attributes:
- If your target dies, their Last Will is replaced with your forgery.
- You will obtain your targets last will when the night starts
- You may only perform 3 forgeries.
Notes:
- The forger has two icons, one is the icon of the forgery he is writing, and the other is a Crescent icon(like the Sun icon of the Mayor) which only appears during the night. Clicking it will allow the forger to read the target's last will. He can also read the target's will and write his forgery simultaneously.
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby fwogcarf » Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:39 pm

I think this is better for the forger since many players are slow typers
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby EternalRage » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:03 pm

What if the mafia doesn't kill whoever the forger decides to forge?
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby Soulshade55r » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:54 pm

Forger should get the old will also unlike Janitor this would make them somewhat level'd
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby rdoukkali » Thu Jun 21, 2018 12:28 am

This has been suggested a lot, but unfortunately it kinda becomes a better consig, except for missing out neutrals.
Plus you get the will at the start of the night, so you can tell maf who to kill immediately.
OP, even with 3 charges.
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby KingArmaan » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:38 am

rdoukkali wrote:This has been suggested a lot, but unfortunately it kinda becomes a better consig, except for missing out neutrals.
Plus you get the will at the start of the night, so you can tell maf who to kill immediately.
OP, even with 3 charges.
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Actually forger wouldn't be that talkative at all, as he would be making a convince able will, because right now, most people can easily find out forged wills, so forger is a dependent on consig, so it's better if forger can also be sort of a consig and can make a good forgery independently.

Soulshade55r wrote:Forger should get the old will also unlike Janitor this would make them somewhat level'd

Yeah I agree, Janitorshould only know the target's role and not their will.
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby BasicFourLife » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:30 am

KingArmaan wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:Forger should get the old will also unlike Janitor this would make them somewhat level'd

Yeah I agree, Janitor only knows the target's role and not their will.

Wrong, Janitor knows both the will and the role.

I'm pretty sure a "hidden" will, will be implemented in Unity. Which doesn't flip on death and cannot be read by Janitor if cleaned. If they'll do it, then it would fix a lot of problems with the Forger. But the Forger still has no place in Ranked, because it messes with a mechanic which shouldn't even exist to begin with and that's Last Wills flipping upon death.
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Re: Forger buff(V 1.1)

Postby KingArmaan » Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:50 am

BasicFourLife wrote:
KingArmaan wrote:
Soulshade55r wrote:Forger should get the old will also unlike Janitor this would make them somewhat level'd

Yeah I agree, Janitor only knows the target's role and not their will.

Wrong, Janitor knows both the will and the role.

I'm pretty sure a "hidden" will, will be implemented in Unity. Which doesn't flip on death and cannot be read by Janitor if cleaned. If they'll do it, then it would fix a lot of problems with the Forger. But the Forger still has no place in Ranked, because it messes with a mechanic which shouldn't even exist to begin with and that's Last Wills flipping upon death.

By that I meant that Janitor should only know the target's role and not the last will, I was approving Soulshade55r's suggestion, though I agree that, the way I wrote it it looked confusing as to whether I was suggesting or giving a statement, so I edited it to be more clear.
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