Thief (Mafia Support)

[Villagerlover]

Name: Thief

Alignment: Mafia Support

Abilities:
-Choose yourself at night to steal the town's voting box for the next day.

Attributes:
None

Special Attributes:
None

Goal: Kill all who oppose the Mafia.

Win Conditions:
Can win with Mafia
Can win with Witches
Can win with Survivors
Must kill everyone else

Investigative Results:
Investigator: Your target could be a Framer/Vampire/Jester/Thief
Consigliere/Witch/Coven Leader: Your target is skilled at thieving others. They must be a thief!
Sheriff: "Your target is a member of the mafia!"


Additional Information:
-When the voting box is stolen, all votes for that day are anonymous.
This includes voting people to the stand, as well as who votes guilty, innocent, or abstains.
-There is also an announcement telling the town that the voting box has been stolen when the day starts.

-On days when votes are anonymous, the word "Someone" will replace all names during the voting phase.
(Someone has voted against William Phips. Someone has changed their vote to Mary Johnson. Etc.)
-On trial, votes continue to remain anonymous, using the same "someone" formula as last time.
(Someone has voted. Someone has has voted guilty. Etc.)

-You may only steal the voting box 3 times in one game.

Lore:
Thief: "Boohoohooooo I'm hungwy"
Mafia: "If you steal that thing the town has, we will feed you"
Thie: "oh okey"

[fwogcarf]

I'm torn between wanting this role and not wanting it because it doesn't really change the game

[Jafetlamval17]

I'm torn between wanting this role and not wanting it because it doesn't really change the game

It screws scumreading through votes, although people can just communicate their votes before voting and that is a real flaw.
You can make it so the votes aren't even revealed (in the Judgement phase) until the process has finished. Meaning you cannot know who voted what or if they even voted.

[Villagerlover]

I'm torn between wanting this role and not wanting it because it doesn't really change the game

It screws scumreading through votes, although people can just communicate their votes before voting and that is a real flaw.
You can make it so the votes aren't even revealed (in the Judgement phase) until the process has finished. Meaning you cannot know who voted what or if they even voted.

Hmm actually that sounds better.

So numbers will just pile up on their own? Like, with no visible counter?

[Blackwolfe99]

I thought Musician already did this when it lulled someone to sleep.

[Villagerlover]

I thought Musician already did this when it lulled someone to sleep.

This has nothing to do with an overpowered mafia role though.
It simply makes scum reading harder.


What do you think about the actual role idea itself?

[Blackwolfe99]

It's a decent role, maybe give it a max 3 uses though.

[BasicFourLife]

What happens if this role is in the same game as the Musician? Musician already has the same exact ability.

[Villagerlover]

What happens if this role is in the same game as the Musician? Musician already has the same exact ability.

This thread isn't about the Musician.
I am not throwing this role idea out there with the consideration that the Musician (an awful role idea) is in existence with the current game.

[lemonader666]

1. OwO you made a role idea
2. viewtopic.php?f=27&t=77345&p=2542218

[DestroyerR225]

Best. Lore. Ever.

[TheWinner2015]

I'm torn between wanting this role and not wanting it because it doesn't really change the game

It screws scumreading through votes, although people can just communicate their votes before voting and that is a real flaw.
You can make it so the votes aren't even revealed (in the Judgement phase) until the process has finished. Meaning you cannot know who voted what or if they even voted.

I like the suggested edit for the role, and I think that this role would be a good role to test out.

/support

[KingArmaan]

Its not a bad idea, but it would be better if during the voting time, everyone chatting appears as anonymous as well, another optional addition I would suggest is that on that day people appear as Anonymous during the discussion phase, but if they whisper to another person, the whisperers see each others' name but others see it as Someone is whispering to Someone, otherwise Townies can just say to guilty during the discussion phase and find out the people who voted innocent via discussion and whispers(if they are smart).

[lemonader666]

Its not a bad idea, but it would be better if during the voting time, everyone chatting appears as anonymous as well, another optional addition I would suggest is that on that day people appear as Anonymous during the discussion phase, but if they whisper to another person, the whisperers see each others' name but others see it as Someone is whispering to Someone, otherwise Townies can just say to guilty during the discussion phase and find out the people who voted innocent via discussion and whispers(if they are smart).

that'd make the role too strong