Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - #ReplaceFramer

Suggest new roles or changes to current roles for the game here.

1-10 - Rate it!

10 - TG Material!
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9 - Great! Balanced
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8%
8 - Its Pretty good
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No votes
7 - Its Good
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8%
6 - Its ight -
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17%
5 - Neutral - Not good, not bad
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4 - Eh... -
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3 - Bad!
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2 - Terrible - Cant be in the game!
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1 - REHAUL - REEEEEEEEEE
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0 - WASTE OF OXYGEN ON THIS EARTH YOU DISGUST ME(Joke)
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Total votes : 12

Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - #ReplaceFramer

Postby Element83 » Thu May 03, 2018 10:23 am

Alignment - Mafia [Support]

Description - "You are a man who has a obsession with keeping everything clean!"

Ability - Wash a Town or Mafia member from being suspected.

Attack - None
Defence - None

Attribute(s) -
-Target a player to Wash suspicion from them
-For ever Two Washing's you have a delay for the third one
-Washing a player alters results/actions visits for your target.
Example of this action - Look at the Messages for more of them...
Spoiler: N2 - Bob(Mysophob) washes dirt off of billy
N2 - Billy is visited by the Sheriff - The Sheriff result for Billy is [Your targets criminal record is clean!]

-Washing a person would last 1 night not including the day the person got Washed - The night you got Washed and the night after counts
-You cannot target the same person after 4 nights after you target them
Example of this-
Spoiler: N1 - Mysophob targets bob
N2 - Mysophob targets bob again
D3 - Action has failed
Jump to N5
N5 - Mysophob targets bob
D6 - Action succeds

-Can be promoted to Mafioso

Special Attributes -
-N/A

Invest - You target could be a Doctor, Mysophob, Serial Killer, or Potion Master. (Replaced Disguser with Mysophob)(Thoughts?)
Consig/Witch - You target owns multiple containers of cleaning supplies. They must be a Mysophob!
Interviewer - Group C

Special Interactions -
-N/A

Goal - Same as Mafia...

Messages -
Mafia - Will not be able to be seen by Spy and all other effects count.
Note - The Mysophob is meant to be played as a Double edged role!
Jailor - If the target is jailed and Washed then if the jailor chooses to execute then the Last WIll will not be shown to the town.
BodyGuard - "Your hands were too slippery to put on your vest!" - BG is unable to put on a vest while washed
Escort - Need some help Here!
Sheriff - "Your targets criminal record is clean!" - Alters the interrogation of a sheriff.
Investigator - "Your target was clean of all suspicion!" - Alters the results.
Spy - "You could see that your target was cleaned!" - Alters the results of buggs and if a Mafia member was cleaned he will not be seen by the Spy
Transporter(Meant for the person being transported) - Alters the message for the person being transported were they will not know that they were transported
Doctor - "Your target was seen to be sterile, so you limited your treatment!" - Alters the defense that is given to a person by the Doc from a Powerful to a Basic Defense
Vigilante - "You could not preform your action for your hands are too slippery for you to hold your gun!" - RB's the Vigi for one night(Not counting the night he was washed its after)
Retributionist (Meant for people who are revived) - If someone is Washed at any time and they are revived they will find out that there will is erased(Thoughts?)
Trapper - If your Washed while you are building a trap your trap will be disabled for how long the wash effect lasts
Tracker - "You targets trail was washed away, you could not find out what he/she did!" - Alters the trackers results
Serial Killer - Need some help here!
WereWolf - If a WW is washed then their attack will become a single attack instead of a Rampage attack
Vampire - Need some help here!
Jester - A clean can Wash away a guilty vote off of someone after the jest is lynched (Thoughts?)
Arsonist - Cleans gasoline off a person when they have the Washed effect on them but when it is removed, they become doused again.

Achievements
IS THIS CLEAN ENOUGH! - Win one game as a Mysophob.
Sparkle Sparkle - Win 5 games as a Mysophob.
Bacteria! Be gone! - Win 10 games as a Mysophob.
The Power of Bleach Compels you! - Win 25 games as a Mysophob.
Romantic Bath at Night - Wash your self.
A Dead Body can be Shiny? - Have a Washed player die.

Lore - Open to suggestions!

Comments -
-For thoughs who dont know the name Mysophod comes from the phobia of Mysophobic - The Fear of being dirty!
-Do you think i should change the word clean to something else??
-This role is meant to be a Double Edged sword TBC
-Should WW be immune to a Wash?
Edits -
-Post Made on the 3rd
-Changed (Clean) to Wash, Add Achievements, Add more messages.
Last edited by Element83 on Fri May 11, 2018 10:51 am, edited 16 times in total.
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support]

Postby fwogcarf » Thu May 03, 2018 10:44 am

I'm not sure that this is a good role. It seems like a Mafia Arsonist-Janitor combo that can actually be super easy to find. If sheriff's results are "cleaned" and they get their results, they will know that this role exists. Probably too self confirming, but I see some potential in this role

/10%support
Spoiler: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M79vYZu-WIKrW0WQ0pCISBq66DeBfSir5T7RCuy0OWY/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support]

Postby Element83 » Thu May 03, 2018 10:47 am

fwogcarf wrote:I'm not sure that this is a good role. It seems like a Mafia Arsonist-Janitor combo that can actually be super easy to find. If sheriff's results are "cleaned" and they get their results, they will know that this role exists. Probably too self confirming, but I see some potential in this role

/10%support


Ight thanks for the 10% support XD
Ill see what i can do, any more suggestions?
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-Mystic

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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support]

Postby fwogcarf » Thu May 03, 2018 10:51 am

Element83 wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:I'm not sure that this is a good role. It seems like a Mafia Arsonist-Janitor combo that can actually be super easy to find. If sheriff's results are "cleaned" and they get their results, they will know that this role exists. Probably too self confirming, but I see some potential in this role

/10%support


Ight thanks for the 10% support XD
Ill see what i can do, any more suggestions?

Not at the moment, I'll probably comment more once more people respond
Spoiler: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M79vYZu-WIKrW0WQ0pCISBq66DeBfSir5T7RCuy0OWY/edit?usp=sharing
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support]

Postby Element83 » Fri May 04, 2018 9:51 am

Added More messages, add achievements
Need more feedback on the messages please. XD :)
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - :D

Postby Element83 » Sun May 06, 2018 6:47 pm

Added a invest result which i need opinions on and added 2 more nerfs for town roles which need reviewing!
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-Mystic

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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - :D

Postby BrendonJunior » Sun May 06, 2018 7:26 pm

Element83 wrote:Added a invest result which i need opinions on and added 2 more nerfs for town roles which need reviewing!

I don't dislike the concept, but this role is very complex. All the different "what ifs" (IMHO) can outright ruin an otherwise good role because it is not "stupid proof" (sorry, lack of a better way to put it).

Ex: Consort: Can stop a player from using their night ability.

Some roles are immune

If you rb an am or ww on a full moon, you die.

See how easy that was?

My Tip: Simplify your role!
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - :D

Postby Element83 » Mon May 07, 2018 8:38 am

BrendonJunior wrote:
Element83 wrote:Added a invest result which i need opinions on and added 2 more nerfs for town roles which need reviewing!

I don't dislike the concept, but this role is very complex. All the different "what ifs" (IMHO) can outright ruin an otherwise good role because it is not "stupid proof" (sorry, lack of a better way to put it).

I umm.... what?

Let me simplifiy is for you -
The Mysophob "Washes" a player each night - these Washes stay in effect for a amount of time
Washes change a action done on the player which distrups town/Neutrals in favor for the mafia
See how easy that is!
Its a pretty straight forward role...


Ex: Consort: Can stop a player from using their night ability.

Some roles are immune

If you rb an am or ww on a full moon, you die.

See how easy that was?

My Tip: Simplify your role!
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-Mysophob
-Torturer


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-Mystic

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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - #ReplaceFramer

Postby Element83 » Fri May 11, 2018 10:50 am

Could i get some more criticizem on this role please :)
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - #ReplaceFramer

Postby Element83 » Mon May 14, 2018 12:25 pm

Bump
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - #ReplaceFramer

Postby MilkyWay90 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:39 pm

Average vote is 4.125, so you should be happy ( :D ).
This probably won't be added to ToS (because of average rating), but it's still better than anything I could make, in ToS and not in ToS (by rating, of course).

You could improve this, then the average rating could go higher. In my opinion, this role seems like a good idea.
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Re: Mysophob - Mafia [Support] - #ReplaceFramer

Postby Kirize12 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:54 am

We’re not gonna replace framer, we’re gonna fix it.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

This matters - educate yourself.
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