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Pirates (New Faction)

Postby Mystoc » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:23 pm

Everyone's doing this faction thing generally i hate factions because they are too hard to balance and an headache to review so i have never even tried to make one, but here is my first shot at making fanction it will prolly suck

Yea and i dont color code stuff even though it would look better cause i'm color blind if someone wants to color code the stuff i wouldnt mind i'll give you credit too

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Faction: Pirates (Lore)

The pirates of the Marry Ann have roamed the 7 seas in search of treasure killing and plundering those that they encountered for many years. Until one disastrous night a storm like no other arrived and destroyed their beloved ship. All of the crew were lost at sea, and washed up on shore apart from each other. The crew of the Marry Ann have not been able to make contact with each other yet. The pirates divided or united plan to take over town of Salem by force for the access to the towns money and resources to begin rebuilding their beloved ship. The Crew of the Marry Ann are merciless and will kill anyone who gets in their way!

Faction Mechanics:

Spoiler: -Every Member of the pirate faction is an unique role
-There must always be captian if the captain dies another pirate will be promoted to be the next captain pirate killing will only be promoted if they are the last alive
-When a Pirate kills it will not say their role that did that kill just that the faction killed the person
-Keyword UNITED means all pirates still alive are part of the same group thus united
-Other players will not be told if/when the pirates are united once again

-The Idea of this faction is they start off about in average in terms of strength but have no night chat or idea who their other teammates are until they make contact with them, once all pirates become Untied again their abilities strengthen or their abilities will change to a completely different one


Making Contact:
-Pirates can find their crew if they visit a crew member
-Any negative action that is done to a pirate teammate will just be turned into a visit
-Existing Groups will be added to each other for example if theres a group 2 and another group of 2 if any member of the groups makes contact with a pirate from the other group they will be combined together to form a full group of 4



Faction Rolelist:

Spoiler: Captain (cannot roll under random pirate)
Pirate Killing (cannot roll under random pirate)
Random Pirate
Random Pirate

this faction is designed to have low kills per night early game and 1-2 kills a night once united depending on variance, keep in mind this faction has no night chat and doesn't know who their teammates are right away



CAPTAIN
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Captain:
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: Basic
Alignment: Pirate Captain

Abilities:
-Starts off with no attack
-Each Night visit a player if they are not a pirate you will be attack capable the next night


Attributes:
-Appears Not Suspicious to Sheriff


-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: Basic DEF: Powerful
Alignment: Pirate Captain

Abilities:
-You may attack every night if your target lives from your attack you must wait one night before being attack capable again
-If you are the last pirate alive you may attack every night no matter what

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Any other role person who is promoted to be caption will only have a basic defense
-You will lose any draw that happens with a kill capable role that is not town

Invest Results: TBD


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PIRATE KILLING

Cutthroat:
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each night select two people, if one of them visits the other Person attack the person visited by your other target
-IF they both visit each other you may attack both of them
-You may select one of your teammates to attack who they visit , if use a teammate you must wait a night before being attack capable again

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: Basic DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Both will now be attacked if either person visits the other, you may attack the next night
-If neither visit each other attack you will kill no one but will still be attack capable the next night
-You may select one of your teammates to attack who they visit , if use a teammate you must wait a night before being attack capable again


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Muarauder:
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each night follow a person and observe what they do then attack who they visit
-If they visit no one attack the person you are following
-you must wait a night before before being attack capable again if you attack the primary target


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

-If you are forced to target a pirate already on your team attack who your teammate visited that night
-this process will be repeated until the person who is targeted is not a teammate

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: Basic DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each night follow a person and observe what they do then attack who they visit
-The next night you may use the person's ability of any non unique town role you killed
-If the ability was unuseable you may attack again without needing to wait a night

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-If you are forced to target a pirate already on your team attack who your teammate visited that night
-this process will be repeated until the person who is targeted is not a teammate

Invest Results: TBD


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Swashbuckler: (Team version of Pirate)
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: Unstoppable (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:

-Each Day challenge any foe to a duel (same as pirate UI)

-If you win the duel attack your target
-If you tie the duel your target will not be killed
-If you lose the duel you will have to wait one night for before being able to duel again

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

-Your target is roleblocked during a night they are being dueled

-If you duel another pirate with your day ability the duel will not happen and they will immediately be added into your group
-You may not duel a teammate who is already part of your current group

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: Unstoppable (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:

-Each Day challenge any foe to a duel (same as pirate UI)

-If you win the duel kill your target
-Tieing a duel will now kill your target but since you were injured you must a full day/night before being able to duel again
-Losing a duel will mean you kill no one and must wait a night to duel again


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Your target is roleblocked during a night they are being dueled
-You may not duel a teammate who is already part of your current group


Invest Results: TBD


PIRATE SUPPORT
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Surveyor:
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support
Abilities:
-Each night visit a player if they are not a pirate mark their home, other pirates will be told at the end of the night of your findings and that person is not a pirate

-If any other pirates visit same person as you during the same night add them to your group

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
Use your spyglass to watch a targets home you will be told who visits your target you will also be told what roles visit them the role(s) will NOT be matched to the names of each person visited (random order)

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Astral Visit

Invest Results: TBD



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Cook:
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Each night poison someone's food
-The next night they will be roleblocked from food poisoning

-If any other pirates visit same person as you during the same night add them to your group



Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Each night poison someone's food
-The next night they will be roleblocked
-Any non pirates who visit that target will be roleblocked the next night too


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Sneak:
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Passive: Pirates whispering to each other will not been seen by anyone expect pirates in the sneaks group

-Visit a target (astral visit) all whispers that target sends and receives are visible to you until the end of the day

-If any other pirates visit same person as you during the same night add them to your group


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: Basic none DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Passive can see all Whispers

-Pirates whispering to each other will not been seen by anyone who is not a pirate

-Visit someone (astral visit) during the night to make them unable send or receive whispers from others
-Your target will think they are sending whispers but they really arent, and to others whispering the target it will appear like they received the whisper when really they never get see it

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Corsair
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Visit someone each night to find out their role

-If any other pirates visit same person as you during the same night add them to your group


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:

-Visiting someone will tell you their exact role
-You will know what results they received from doing their role and who they visited

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD



PIRATE DECEPTION
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Buccaneer
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: Powerful/None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:
-The first time a member of the your faction the pirates is attacked that is equal or lower to your defense you will be attacked instead
-Your Powerful defense is lost after being attacked, after loosing your defense your redirect can not be triggered again
-If you take an attack for a member of your crew add them to your group

-The target who attacked your teammate will receive a message they were roleblocked that night

-If your defense is none you may visit others but it does nothing


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Target two people they will target who the other person targeted instead
-If a person does not visit that night the other person will target themselves instead

-Targets will be told they were transported if both targets visited someone

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Quartermaster
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:
-If a member of crew is voted to the stand they will be added your crew immediately
-You can see who votes what before the votes have been finalized

-If You are hanged all remaining pirates alive will become united

-Can visit but visit does nothing


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:

(Limited Uses (2))
-Visit a player during the night if that player is voted to the stand the next day they will be found guilty and hanged immediately and the day cycle will end
-Day ability if at least one pirate has died you may reveal you are the quartermaster to everyone to gain another vote (2 voting power)

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Swindler
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:

-Can visit a player each night to frame them


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:
-Can visit a player each night to frame them
-If you target visits someone the person they visited will be framed the next night

-Can visit a teammate to make them appear not suspicious for that night
-Who ever your teammate visits will be framed for that night as well

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Cheat
Spoiler: When Divided:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:

-Each night visit a player they will target you instead
-Players will not be told they targeted you

-If a player originally targeted you they will target themselves instead
-Players will not be told they targeted themselves

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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When United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

Abilities:

(Limited Uses (3))
-Select which role you want a player to appear has if they die that night
-You may write a fake will that will replace the current one the player has if they die that night

-The fake will be a separate button then your normal will
-If you die all players real role and wills can once again be see in the graveyard

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


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Re: Pirate (Faction)

Postby KingoftheRocks » Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Mystoc wrote:Everyone's doing this faction thing generally i hate factions because they are too hard to balance and an headache to review so i have never even tried to make one, but here is my first shot at making fanction it will prolly suck

I'm sure it won't suck. You do a good job with roles. But don't jump on the bandwagon just because everyone else (including me) is! We don't need this many factions! (except that we do)
Mystoc wrote:Yea and i dont color code stuff even though it would look better cause i'm color blind if someone wants to color code the stuff i wou mind i'll give you credit too

Sure, what colors do you want, then?
Mystoc wrote:Faction: Pirates (Lore)

You and your crew of pirates have roamed the 7 seas in search of treasure and plunder for many years, until one night a storm like no other arrived and destroyed your beloved ship, you and you crew were lost at sea, and washed up on shore apart from each other, you have not been able make contact with your crew yet, your goal is take over this town of salem by force for economic gain so you can begin rebuilding your ship, you will kill all who would oppose you in this goal

How did they end up at the same town though? Pirate's luck? Enchanted compass? Following a trail of money?
Mystoc wrote:Faction Mechanics:

Spoiler: -Every Member of the pirate faction is an unique role
-There most always be captian if the captain dies another pirate will be promoted to be the next captain pirate killing will only be promoted if they are the last alive
-When a Pirate kills it will not say their role that did that kill just the faction killed the person
-Keyword UNITED means all pirates still alive are part of the same group thus united
-Other players will not be told if/when the pirates are united once again

A uninformed minority seems pretty hard to balance. However, I haven't read the roles yet, so I don't know.
Mystoc wrote:-The Idea of this faction is they start off about in average in terms of strength but have no night chat or idea who their other teammates are until they make contact with them, once all pirates become Untied[/b ] again their abilities strengthen or their abilities will change to a completely different one

So they start off as a bunch of NKs/Supports? Seems like they have a miniature town problem while working against the town, which is that the Majority doesn't know info, and the Minority does. However, this means you can end up lynching a Pirate that's on your side, and waste nights 'finding' a member. Seems pretty weak, but once again, I haven't read the roles yet.
Mystoc wrote:-Sheriff will only find a pirate has being a pirate once all pirates are united

This kinda heavily nerfs Sheriff. By the time all the pirates have been united, a bunch of Town (including him) will probably have died, and they'd probably have almost lost Majority.
Mystoc wrote:[b]Making Contact:
-Pirates can find their crew if they visit a crew member
-Any negative action that is done to a pirate teammate will just be turned into a visit
-Existing Groups will be added to each other for example if theres a group 2 and another group of 2 if any member of the groups makes contact with a pirate from the other group they will be combined together to form to the full group of 4

It seems like random voting is the main ally of town here, as most members of the Pirate may vote guilty on accident on a member of their alliance early game. VFR will also work well.

Mystoc wrote:Faction Rolelist:

Spoiler: Captain
Pirate Killing (cannot roll under random pirate)
Pirate Support
Pirate Support

Seems balanced.

Mystoc wrote:Some support roles do have killing capability but they are very hard to pull off mostly they will just be supporting others

Don't have too much KPN, though. If all 4 roles can kill per night, then there's problems.

Mystoc wrote:PIRATE KILLING
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Captain:
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: Basic
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each Night visit a player if they are not a pirate you will become attack capable the night night


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

You will not use up your attack if you visit a pirate when attack capable

Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic DEF: Powerful
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-You may attack every night if your target lives from your attack you must wait one night before being attack capable again
-If you the last pirate alive you may attack every night no matter what

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Any other role person who is promoted to be caption only have a basic defense
You will lose any draw that happens with a kill capable role that is not town


Invest Results: TBD


So a nerfed SK, that can't attack a jailed or healed target without suffering?
Every other Faction can have it's main KPN deal one basic attack per night, but I guess if there's a bunch of KPN, you need to put some restrictions. (Or nerf the KPN.)
Mystoc wrote:======================================================================


Cutthroat :
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each Night follow a player If they visit one your pirate team members you will instead visit that pirate instead
-If they don't visit any of your team members attack them
-If the pirate is already part of your team you still attack them

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-If your target visited someone for first time that night kill them, you must then wait a night to kill again
-If your target visits someone they already have visited before kill them, you do not need to wait a night to kill again


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

Invest Results: TBD


I feel like this is reversed Fanatic, only that you have a 13/15 chance to get an enemy, and getting an ally is a huge advantage, so this guy's up to the nerf chopping block.
Mystoc wrote:=====================================================================

Swashbuckler: (Team version of Pirate)
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each Day challenge any foe to a duel (same as pirate UI)
-If you win the duel attack your target
-If you tie the duel your target will not be killed
-If you lose the duel you will have to wait one night for before being able to duel again

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

-You have night chat with the foe that you are dueling

-If you duel another pirate with your day ability the duel will not happen and they will immediately be added into your group
-You may not duel a teammate who is already part of your current group

Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each Day challenge any foe to a duel (same as pirate UI)
-Tieing a duel will now kill the foe but since you were injured you must a full day/night before being able to duel again
-Losing a duel will mean you kill no one and must wait a night to duel again


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-You may not duel a teammate who is already part of your current group
-You have night chat with the foe that you are dueling


Invest Results: TBD


Seeing how he needs to work together and not just plunder, I see this. However, make it so that if the other person doesn't choose, it goes to a set result instead of current RNG.
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Mystoc wrote:Muarauder:
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each night follow a person and observe what they do then attack who they visit
-If they visit no one attack the person you are following
-you must wait a night before before being attack capable again

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

-Astral visit if you attack who the person visited

Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Killing

Abilities:
-Each night follow a person and observe what they do then attack who they visit
-The next night you may use the person's ability of any non unique town role you killed if the
-If the ability was unuseable you may attack again without needing to wait a night

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Astral visit if for attacks awalys

Invest Results: TBD


Way too OP, always attacks, and gets Astral attacks? Nerf this.
Mystoc wrote:PIRATE SUPPORT
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Surveyor:
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support
Abilities:
-Each night visit a player if they are not a pirate mark their home, other pirates will be told at the end of the night of your findings and that person is not a pirate

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No

Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
Use your spyglass to watch a targets home you will be told who your target visits and who visits your targets home

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Astral Visit

Invest Results: TBD


So, just select someone, if they're not a pirate, then people don't have to choose them. If they are a pirate, then you get with them, and all teammates get with them the next night. All in all, needs a nerf.
Mystoc wrote:=====================================================================

Cook:
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Each night poison someone's food
-The next night they will be roleblocked from food poisoning



Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No


Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Each night poison someone's food
-The night night they will be roleblocked

-Any non pirates who visit that target will be roleblocked the next night too


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes


Invest Results: TBD


Nerfed Consort/Ghost mix? Not feeling it. I mean, it's somewhat balanced, but might need a slight buff.
Mystoc wrote:=====================================================================

Sneak:
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Passive can hear all Whispers
-Pirates can whispering to each other will not been seen by anyone including other pirates

-Can visit but visit does nothing


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No


Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic (Conditional) DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Passive can see all Whispers

-Pirates whispering to each other will not been seen by anyone including other pirates

-Visit someone during the night If you correctly predict who they will whisper to the next day, the next night you may attack them

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Astral attack
-Visit for predicting whisper is not astral


Invest Results: TBD


Completely UP. Old spy ability to see whispers is ehhh in this faction, and guessing who whispers to who is super unlikely. Needs buff.
Mystoc wrote:=====================================================================

Corsair
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: None DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

[b]Abilities:

-Visit someone each night you to find out their role
-If any other pirates visit same person as you add add them to your group


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No


Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic Conditional DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:

-Visiting someone will tell you their exact role and give them your investigative results for sheriff and investigator for that night


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes


Invest Results: TBD


By 'them', I assume you mean your team? Which is UP, because if you get Conslignere results, you're going to tell them anyway. If this is the other person, then no. Why would you give the other person notification they were investigated?
Mystoc wrote:PIRATE DECEPTION
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Buccaneer
Spoiler: Ununited:
ATK: None DEF: Powerful/None
Alignment: Pirate Deception

[b]Abilities:

-The first time a member of the your faction the pirates is attacked that is equal or lower to your defense you will be attacked instead
-You Powerful defense is lost after redirecting the attack you will only ever do this once
-If you take an attack for a member of your crew add them to your group

-If your defense is none you may visit others but it does nothing


Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: No
-Knows who all alive teammates are: No


Invest Results: TBD

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United
ATK: Basic Conditional DEF: None
Alignment: Pirate Support

Abilities:
-Target two people they will target who the other person targeted instead
-If a person does not visit that night the other person will target themselves instead

Attributes:
-Night Chat with all alive teammates: Yes
-Knows who all alive teammates are: Yes

-Targets will not be told they targeted a different person


Invest Results: TBD


So, weak transporter? The real thing here is the ability to survive a WW and Arso or lower, which means that ehhh, nerfing a NK is meh. It does grant good protection, so I'm fine with it though. Just needs a slight nerf AFTER everyone else gets nerfed/buffed.

Mystoc wrote:===============================================================================

PLEASE READ

Spoiler: -This faction by no means done yet im not satisfied with faction by any means I i just wanted to post what i have now to get feedback i will be adding stuff now/in the future

-Some of these roles could be considered deception type role but i have decided for now to keep them all support the plan is that the last two spots can be support or deception, so reclassifying the alignments wouldn't changed the role list just classify each role better

-Keep in my mind these roles are better versions of some existing roles because of the unique way the faction starts out in the game they start off the game which is their biggest weakness

I didn't read this part lol
(I don't think anything other then the Pirate, Killing roles should kill. That way, only 2 kills per night at Max, and after some nerfs done to the OP killing roles (looking at you Cutthroat) it'll be more balanced.

Seems like it's in need of some major balancing, but is a cool concept.
KingoftheRocks wrote:also of course my combat trial
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and being won
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Re: Pirate (Faction WIP!)

Postby Mystoc » Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:15 pm

the role list is only on pirate killing + captain has killers which is 1-1.5 maybe 2 but not likey kills per a night which is about the same has coven this faction is balanced differently then mafia

there can never 4 pirate killings on a team

gonna rebalance alot of thsese the captain is a nerfed SK cause because pirate killing can kill aslo


marauder needs to be reworked cause i just realized if a person if you visit a teammate their will reveals who the teammate was since you didn't kill the person visited but them
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Re: Pirate (Faction WIP!)

Postby fwogcarf » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:52 pm

I wonder if you could sneak in a 10% chance of mutiny
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Re: Pirate (Faction WIP!)

Postby KingoftheRocks » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:54 pm

fwogcarf wrote:I wonder if you could sneak in a 10% chance of mutiny


No RNG, but I like the idea. Pirate's aren't so happy to see eachother all the time. Maybe make it so that if by Night 6, if people are still unmet, they become 2 seperate factions fighting eachother as well as town?
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Re: Pirate (Faction WIP!)

Postby fwogcarf » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:55 pm

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fwogcarf wrote:I wonder if you could sneak in a 10% chance of mutiny


No RNG, but I like the idea. Pirate's aren't so happy to see eachother all the time. Maybe make it so that if by Night 6, if people are still unmet, they become 2 seperate factions fighting eachother as well as town?


Yeah that would be a better idea
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Re: Pirate (Faction WIP!)

Postby Mystoc » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:05 pm

im done changing stuff for tonight

right now i have 4 pirate killing (including captain who is in every game)

and 4 pirate support
and also 4 pirate deception

yes some roles are better versions of some existing roles once united because their early game they don't know who each other are and don't have night chat,

the idea of this faction is at the start they are disorganized are weaker because of this, once united the crew becomes much stronger


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also king i don't really care what colors they are just make them colorful so they pop

the main point of survey though is it does nothing but help pirates find each other before they become united

i did nerf its united powers though it's no longer tracker + LO
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Re: Pirates (New Faction) WIP!

Postby simpson210 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:06 am

Really nice idea, I won't spend too much time getting into every little role but it seems kind of nice.

In terms of colours considering this faction revolves around the pirate then make it the colour of the pirate!

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Captain -
Cutthroat
Marauder
Swashbuckler
Surveyor
Cook
Sneak
Corsair
Buccaneer
Quartermaster
Swindler
Deceiver


Since I kind of like lore, I'll add flavour text for each role. :P

Captain - A born leader with a fiery passion for loot and finding his team.
Cutthroat - A sneaky apprentice who predicts attacks perfectly.
Marauder - An experienced attacker with a habit of hidden raids.
Swashbuckler - A swashbuckler with an obsession for gold.
Surveyor - An unknown blueprinter who marks the correct spot with striking accuracy.
Cook - An evil chef for the pirate team who poisons people just right to gain the upper hand.
Sneak - A deceiving eavesdropper who listens in on forbidden info to aid his team.
Corsair - A masterful recruiter who finds if people are worthy under great pressure.
Buccaneer - A helpful defender who takes hits for his team.
Quartermaster - A trickster who plays with the trial and visits to prank others.
Swindler - A skillfull mugger who decieves and frames to get to the top.
Deciever - A controlled deciever who forces others to forfeit their actions.

these are probably shit im tired
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Re: Pirates (New Faction) WIP!

Postby Mystoc » Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:04 pm

updated a lot of the roles , supports now have the passive affect to add pirates to the crew if they end up visiting the same target

the only role i don't like is swashbuckler i wanted to include a version of the current pirate role in the pirate faction but theres no way to make it have no RNG like element, the role is still strong and a better then pirate once united, but it still doesn't have guaranteed kills, i may rework swashbuckler so it is nothing like pirate tell me what you guys think
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Re: Pirates (New Faction) WIP!

Postby Mystoc » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:52 am

more feedback please
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Re: Pirates (New Faction) WIP!

Postby Mystoc » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:44 pm

i see a lot of faction being reviewed seems like perfect time to ask for more feedback, keep in mind if you have given feedback before a lot of stuff has changed since then
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Re: Pirates (New Faction) WIP!

Postby Mystoc » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:42 pm

changed some the wording a bit of the roles themselves *not alot though

more feedback please
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Re: Pirates (New Faction)

Postby Mystoc » Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:44 am

seen alot of factions recently figured why not get some feedback on my faction, thanks
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