Soulshade55r wrote:uhh why should jester be removed? you may say this is a "over haul" but you might has well get rid of jester and replace it with another role
My suggestion was perfectly fine, a way of changing jester to only harm town like exe does...
Look.
Neutral Evils takes skill to use.
If you're just rewarded with only killing town because the role is broken as it is, then it's still a bad role, with a cop out change.
Witch and Executioner helps evils a lot, that's their goal. But they can mess up.
Jester being rewarded with kill town only is broken as hell, and is a change which was made because the role was broken as hell.
"BUT MARZAKI1, THIS JUST PROOFES THET NEUTREL EVELS MESS UP ELL THE TEM."
Yes, Neutral Evils mess up. But they don't mess up on purpose.
THEIR GOAL IS TO HARM TOWN
NAME ONE THING IN JESTERS ROLE CARD THAT SAYS ANYTHING ABOUT KILLING TOWN.
"Bat it has lek a 4/5 in 15 chance of killing scum."
Which is RNG to help/harm scum when your goal is legit Neutral Evil. I'm sorry, but no.
But witch is RNG and swing-
No. No. And. No.
It actually takes skill to get the right targets and whisper to each and every one of them.
But Executioner is RNG and swing-
Also no.
As it takes a lot of fake claims and effort to successfully lynch someone.
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It takes no skill to be a jester
Instead all you do is say some scummy crap and get lynched.
In which you'll probably get someone saying "I'll take the hint" like 1% of the time.
Then when you're lynched you don't say "YES! I successfully harmed town!" You say, "oh, cool I win."
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Also bringing up another point. You shouldn't be rewarded for being scummy. Good day sir.