Killing roles with lower than Basic Defense will die the night they are lacerated
JustSomeOtherGuy wrote:Honestly... it seems a little weak against the Mafia when the other just steps up like "No biggy, you just sit there and die, i got this."
Sirenfal wrote:Nice role, I assume it is Basic attack and no defence? (it may seem obvious but adding it in cannot hurt right?)
JustSomeOtherGuy wrote:Honestly... it seems a little weak against the Mafia when the other just steps up like "No biggy, you just sit there and die, i got this."
Mystoc wrote:this is a town a WW(doesn't kill primary target only visitors with attacking intent)
with unlimited uses with no penalty for killing town that will only attack roles with ill intent
the only town role the with ill intent that visits is vigKilling roles with lower than Basic Defense will die the night they are lacerated
so its kills all attackers with non basic defense and
if they have basic defense they are delayed a night cause who in their right mind would attack after getting lacerated
this is too strong a night immune should be told they were lacerated not a generic attack message, because even if they aren't lacerated in every game an evil would have to stay home ever time they got attacked on the off chance it was the huntsman that attacked them
in short this role is way to strong cause it cause there no drawback to it realistically your basicly never gonna kill town vig and if the vig shot a town member they die of guilt anyway
to many strengths and no weaknesses
BS4125 wrote:The laceration is a basic attack, the attack from the Huntsman the night after laceration is a Powerful attack
Sirenfal wrote:BS4125 wrote:The laceration is a basic attack, the attack from the Huntsman the night after laceration is a Powerful attack
yup, clears that up nicely, thanks! NIce to see someone with a good taste for pokemon too!
You're right but this is a TK that can only kill Killers which limits which scum it can actually kill plus there's a chance it can't kill at all which defeats it's purpose
If you think of the night after laceration in the context of Doctor and Bodyguard then you'll find a similarity
Plus I forgot to add that you can only lacerate 3 times
Mystoc wrote:You're right but this is a TK that can only kill Killers which limits which scum it can actually kill plus there's a chance it can't kill at all which defeats it's purpose
If you think of the night after laceration in the context of Doctor and Bodyguard then you'll find a similarity
Plus I forgot to add that you can only lacerate 3 times
the primary target should be immune to death even if they are an attacking role with ill intent
its weakness should be it needs to guess where killers will visit it shouldn't be able to directly be able to kill the person it visits
could you make i list of roles you consider attacking roles?
like is which one is crusader one? which coven would get attacked?
this is sorta BG/TK hybrid because it doesn't save the target you visit yet it can kill
its kinda weird
I like it though if you change what i suggested above i think i support this role
Mystoc wrote:perhaps remove lecaracte cooldown on immunes to live the next night but if you lacerate them again they die because they are injured from before?
you could keep both in but together i feel it's to strong
Mystoc wrote:i like the first better because you have chance to kill em but it will be hard
second means you just delay GF and NK cause really there are never gonna attack you may word has on attacking a night immune they are rbed the next night to recover from the injuries cause really no NK is gonna visit to kill someone and then just kill themselves
both the first second option can work i think i would wait for more feedback besides from me
does it use an ability charge only on attacking someone or does the night action of just visiting the person count has an ability use?
Lacerate your target and all their visitors if they have killing abilities each night
Mystoc wrote:Lacerate your target and all their visitors if they have killing abilities each night
this still says the primary target can be lacerated it's too strong for that if you use the first option casue you can just attack them twice and then kill them
Mystoc wrote:Lacerate your target and all their visitors if they have killing abilities each night
this still says the primary target can be lacerated it's too strong for that if you use the first option casue you can just attack them twice and then kill them
Kirize wrote:I didnt know you could contradict yourself in one sentencekookeekwisp wrote:Dont single out Arso cause it kills slower!
kookeekwisp wrote:Non-aimed drawbacks are not cool, mainly because you didn't do anything to deserve it.
Vig can randomly shoot night 1 & kill 2 townies
Jailor can Jail & execute using poor judgement
Vet can seem important to become a priority
Even TP can protect evil roles from lethal attacks by Town if they don't aim!
But this doesn't have a rhyme or reason. It goes off without warning & might kill important Town roles in the process!
Laceration itself is pretty pointless other than to roleblock Killing, Coven & TP roles.
It's also not effective at killing scum AT ALL! WW, Arso, MS and MD are virtually immune to these effects.
What's the Coven interactions? If PM uses healing potion, do they get lacerated? What about the Necronomicon? What about Necromancer? This was posted precisely 12 hours ago, so you can't have NOT known about Coven's weird abilities.
Kirize wrote:I didnt know you could contradict yourself in one sentencekookeekwisp wrote:Dont single out Arso cause it kills slower!
kookeekwisp wrote:A world with no pessimists is a world that never changes.
It was constructive. It may be rude & slightly hurtful (enough to say sorry for), but i still pointed out some very keen points about it.
...which i'm now seeing to be confusing, because in your post it says, "Lacerate your target and all their visitors if they have killing abilities each night"
Can non-violent visitors be killed if your target has killing abilities? Or can only killing roles be lacerated?
Either way, the role's not that good.
If it were to effect Coven, it should harm PM, Medusa & Poisoner. Nec/Hex/CL should only be hit if they have the NNC.
You should also change "Bleed Out", 'cause that's just gruesome, children play this game!
Maybe instead of 'lacerating' & them knowing they were hit, change it to a sleep dart at day. If they try to visit with killing intent, you'd kill them. (Not sure if you should roleblock them or not, but eh, work in progress)
kookeekwisp wrote:You should also change "Bleed Out", 'cause that's just gruesome, children play this game!
Wait Mystoc I have encountered a problem, if it was to only to lacerate the visitors of a target each night then it would have to correctly guess who the killer attacks for 2 full consecutive nights which is too hard and therefore weak to pull off correctly
This therefore means it should be able to target directly or revert back to the second iteration
Non-aimed drawbacks are not cool, mainly because you didn't do anything to deserve it.
Mystoc wrote:Wait Mystoc I have encountered a problem, if it was to only to lacerate the visitors of a target each night then it would have to correctly guess who the killer attacks for 2 full consecutive nights which is too hard and therefore weak to pull off correctly
This therefore means it should be able to target directly or revert back to the second iteration
oh i didn't mean the night after only i ment if you attack them the again for the rest the game they die
basicly a lacerate takes half of their life and if you hit them again you take the rest of it a night immune would never be able to recover from it but then you would have remove recovery period after attacked the first time to be fair
and remove the kill the primary target option casue then its just a better vigNon-aimed drawbacks are not cool, mainly because you didn't do anything to deserve it.
bg? vet ww all have to with predicting visits and getting kills from them
how predicting were a killer will visit undeserving? BG is exactly this
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