The Briber (Mafia Deception) (420+ VIEWS)

[SypieDypie]

420 blaze thos views m8

.: MAIN INFORMATION :.

NAME: Briber

ALIGNMENT: Mafia Deception

.: MECHANICS/ROLE INFO :.

SUMMARY: A rich man who pays people to sway their vote.

ABILITIES: During defense, you can bribe someone to vote guilty or innocent.

ATTRIBUTES: You can only bribe 1 person at once. — You have a 1 day cooldown after you bribe someone.

SPECIAL ATTRIBUTES: Unique role. Mafia chat. Becomes Mafioso when Mafia Killing are dead.

GOAL: Kill everyone who would stand in your way.

WIN CONDITIONS:
Wins With:
Mafia
Survivor
Witch

Must Kill:
Town
Vampires
Arsonist
Serial Killer
Werewolf

May spare all others.

INVESTIGATIVE RESULTS:
“Your target is a member of the Mafia!” (Sheriff)
“Your target is skilled at influencing others. They could be an Escort, Transporter, Consort or Briber.” (Investigator)
“Your target influences people with their money. They must be a Briber!” (Consigliere)

MECHANICS EXPLANATION:
- During the defense, you can select 1 person from the player list in the bottom right. Then, clicking the sun icon in the toolbar, you can change if you want to bribe them from innocent to guilty.
- The Spy will be notified after the vote results are revealed. See below.
- All Mafia members will be notified (see below).
- A revealed Mayor CAN be bribed for all 3 votes.
- Nerfed by having a 1 day bribe cooldown and having 1 bribe at a time.
- Nerfed by Spy being able to see who was bribed. The person who is bribed will not be notified [They never saw anything...] but MAY deduce that they did not vote guilty originally if their vote was changed. (It cannot be proven with chat logs and misclicks are possible.)
- A good fake-out if mafia votes innocent on another mafia member would be, "I was bribed," and that would make it to seem that they are not mafia -- but the town must always be skeptical of anything.

NOTIFICATION TEXT:
- "You have decided to bribe PLAYER to vote GUILTY/INNOCENT." (Bribe)
- "You have instead decided to bribe PLAYER to vote GUILTY/INNOCENT." (Changing person/vote)
- "You have changed your mind." (Cancel bribe)
- "PLAYER has decided to bribe PLAYER to vote GUILTY/INNOCENT." (Maf notification)
- "PLAYER has instead decided to bribe PLAYER to vote GUILTY/INNOCENT." (Another maf notification)
- "PLAYER has changed their mind." (Last maf notification)
- "A member of the Mafia visited PLAYER." (Spy notification)

EXAMPLE OF BRIBER:
Player C (Godfather) is voted to be lynched.
The Briber selects Player A. "You have decided to bribe Player A to vote Guilty."
The Briber clicks Player A again, to cancel it. "You have changed your mind."
The Briber clicks Player B. "You have decided to bribe Player B to vote Guilty."
The Briber clicks the sun icon. "You have instead decided to bribe Player B to vote Innocent."
Player B selects Guilty.
Player B vote is revealed as Innocent.
Player C is acquitted.

.: EXTRA STUFF :.

LORE:
The Godfather was doomed. The whole town knew his secrets, due to a credible Investigator's results, and he was not going to survive the following day's lynching. The guilty vote was lead by the town Mayor. But the Mafia had a plan, already in action.
The town banker, known for corruption and fraud, crept furtively towards the Mayor. Of course, the Mayor would never pardon such a known criminal... or would he? With a simple quick whisper and a passing of an overflowing envelope, the Mayor nodded, and minded his own business.
After the vote, it was found that the Godfather was to be acquitted, due to an overwhelming vote... led by the town Mayor.
Nobody knows what went down that day... but the Mayor knows one thing.
He was never visited.

ACHIEVEMENTS:
- You didn’t see anything... (Bribe someone.)/10
- Dollar bills (Win as a Briber once)/20
- Big bucks (Win as a Briber five times)/20
- Deep pockets (Win as a Briber ten times)/40
- Moneybags (Win as a Briber twenty times)/40

REASON FOR IDEA: I've always wanted a vote-rigger in ToS, and a fun and balanced one at that.

DEBATABLE THINGS:
- Cooldowns/charges.
- Bribing during Defense.

TL;DR: A vote-rigger for the Mafia that can force people to vote a certain way.

IMAGES:
- Icon: http://imgur.com/a/HL56h

[TimeToReap]

Oversuggested.
0% Originality.

[SypieDypie]

It's my take on a popular suggestion.

[TimeToReap]

It's my take on a popular suggestion.

No.
It's literally almost the exact same role everyone else has put.

[Mystoc]

It's my take on a popular suggestion.

No.
It's literally almost the exact same role everyone else has put.

it kinda is and kinda isnt his version is a day time ability and can only be used for voting guilty not voting up to the stand, since its kinda nerfed that spy knows and has one day cooldown , i tihnk its fine u can bribe mayor

edit: i dont see why u cant force someone to vote innocent add a sun symbol so briber can choose ino or guilty like i said you cant use it to vote someone to stand. only on verdicts stage

yes the concept as been suggested but i like this take on the role idea

this also make a town member look guilty or like the jestor i like it , also evils who voted wrong could use i was bribed as an excuse now for why they voted guilty or innocent

/support

[Spectre0]

Fairly useless besides giving mafia the ability to vote recklessly and a one night buffer on voting majority.

Neither of which are very useful.

[Mystoc]

Fairly useless besides giving mafia the ability to vote recklessly and a one night buffer on voting majority.

Neither of which are very useful.

this inst even my role

this lets mafia make town look like evils or jestor and it can be used as an excuse why you vote wrongly if your evil you can say so "oh i was bribed i voted ino not guilty."

i also think bribing the mayor is pretty useful

this is by no means on the power level of janitor or consig but i think thats fine its better the disguiser and framer and forger and even consort imo

[Spectre0]

if your evil you can say so "oh i was bribed i voted ino not guilty."

Exactly why framing people wouldn't work. Anyone can claim bribed and people will believe them most times.

i also think bribing the mayor is pretty useful

A role dependent on another role to be useful is a bad role.

[Mystoc]

if your evil you can say so "oh i was bribed i voted ino not guilty."

Exactly why framing people wouldn't work. Anyone can claim bribed and people will believe them most times.

i also think bribing the mayor is pretty useful

A role dependent on another role to be useful is a bad role.

i dont think people will beilve that the person was bribed most times i would think they were jestor

its not dependant on the mayor it can bribe any role mayor is just the strongest way the role can be used

its a good role to confuse town and get a swing

yes it waaaaay oversuggested but i like the OPs take on the role

[SypieDypie]

I will take your ideas into account.

EDIT TO ROLE: You can make someone vote inno OR guilty with a transporter-esk selection panel during Guilty/Inno voting.

[Mystoc]

I will take your ideas into account.

EDIT TO ROLE: You can make someone vote inno OR guilty with a transporter-esk selection panel during Guilty/Inno voting.

you need sun symbol to choose ino or guilty how will choose the person you would need 3 panes without a sun symbol

let the briber choose the person through normal way and sun symbol ino or guilty

[SypieDypie]

let the briber choose the person through normal way and sun symbol ino or guilty

Great

[SypieDypie]

EDIT TO ROLE: You now select the person to bribe on the bottom right and the sun icon can change from inno to guilty bribe.

[SypieDypie]

It's my take on a popular suggestion.

No.
It's literally almost the exact same role everyone else has put.

I'm sorry. I was not aware of any other roles, though I would imagine there would be. I don't browse around too much on this forum.
I tried to make it have better mechanics and not be as over/under-powered as I imagine some of the other suggestions would be.

[TimeToReap]

Im sorry.
Don't put that in the title.
It is the EXACT SAME FUCKING ROLE

[SypieDypie]

...

I did some research. The first role idea that came up was this: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=63661&p=2037907&hilit=Briber#p2037907
The mechanics are nothing like mine. The concept is retained, but not the mechanics.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64930&p=2077458&hilit=Briber#p2077458
This role's mechanics are neither like mine at all. It maintains the same concept, but nothing like my mechanics.

viewtopic.php?f=27&t=44766&hilit=Bribe
This role, though greatly thought out, is like a blackmailer for votes.

If you can find one that is "Literally almost exactly" like mine, I will believe you and react accordingly.

[Mroz4k]

Forced votes are not a new concept, and this one actually doesnt sound half bad.

if your evil you can say so "oh i was bribed i voted ino not guilty."

Exactly why framing people wouldn't work. Anyone can claim bribed and people will believe them most times.

i also think bribing the mayor is pretty useful

A role dependent on another role to be useful is a bad role.

I dont understand how your brain works. I dont see how anything you have said would make any rational sense.

This would actualy be pretty legitimate. Its ability can only work every two days so it cant be used to establish vote majority super quickly, only quicker and that itself works very well in Mafia advantage. It could literally turn things around in certain situations. And yes, people would know they were bribed and could claim it, but if people did it so often then in itself, others wouldnt believe them even if they were telling the truth. Strategic decision would be to bribe the less vocal players due to fact that others wouldnt believe them so easily.
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This role would actually turn out to be pretty useful. Its better, more balanced then the usual suggestions, and I dont give two shits its an oversuggested thing, if it works.

Decent job, OP.
The only actual issue I have with this role is that we really dont need another Mafia Deception role. There is way too many of them already. However, that in itself opens a possibility of creating a new sub-allignment for Mafia roles to split them into smaller groups.

Oversuggested.
0% Originality.

Here is an idea: How about you shut the fuck up, then? You obviously cant even write a whole sentence.

Truth is, in 95% of cases, original ideas suck ass. Not being original is not a problem, at all. Being a plagiator is, copy pasting someone else idea would be bad.

So stick that comment somewhere and next time, instead of making a useless attack at someones idea, just do us all a favour and dont post at all. Nobody cares about your opinion unless it contains something constructive. Shit in a toilet is more useful then your comment.

Pedit:

I'm sorry. I was not aware of any other roles, though I would imagine there would be. I don't browse around too much on this forum.
I tried to make it have better mechanics and not be as over/under-powered as I imagine some of the other suggestions would be.

Why would you apologize for putting down a decently formatted thread with your opinion on a widely suggested idea? Your idea doesnt have to be completedly original, I myself steal ideas from others all the time too and noone seems to care too much, on top of that I tend to focus mostly on "widely suggested ideas" with my take on it.

Dont put up with useless haters - you did well.

[Mystoc]

Im sorry.
Don't put that in the title.
It is the EXACT SAME FUCKING ROLE

same mechnics different take/interaction of they work, no need to curse

like i said i like this role im not the OP it doesn't matter if the idea inst original to me.

[SypieDypie]

I'm not going to quote that entire thing, Mrozk4k, haha, but thanks a lot.
Originality does not define quality, keep that in mind, TimeToReap.
Do you have any other suggestions.

EDIT: The only thing you said you didn't like was how many maf deception roles there are. I too believe that there should be another mafia subcategory, like for Consort, Consig and stuff? No idea. Thanks a lot, still.

[TimeToReap]

Forced votes are not a new concept, and this one actually doesnt sound half bad.

if your evil you can say so "oh i was bribed i voted ino not guilty."

Exactly why framing people wouldn't work. Anyone can claim bribed and people will believe them most times.

i also think bribing the mayor is pretty useful

A role dependent on another role to be useful is a bad role.

I dont understand how your brain works. I dont see how anything you have said would make any rational sense.

This would actualy be pretty legitimate. Its ability can only work every two days so it cant be used to establish vote majority super quickly, only quicker and that itself works very well in Mafia advantage. It could literally turn things around in certain situations. And yes, people would know they were bribed and could claim it, but if people did it so often then in itself, others wouldnt believe them even if they were telling the truth. Strategic decision would be to bribe the less vocal players due to fact that others wouldnt believe them so easily.
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This role would actually turn out to be pretty useful. Its better, more balanced then the usual suggestions, and I dont give two shits its an oversuggested thing, if it works.

Decent job, OP.
The only actual issue I have with this role is that we really dont need another Mafia Deception role. There is way too many of them already. However, that in itself opens a possibility of creating a new sub-allignment for Mafia roles to split them into smaller groups.

Oversuggested.
0% Originality.

Here is an idea: How about you shut the fuck up, then? You obviously cant even write a whole sentence.

Truth is, in 95% of cases, original ideas suck ass. Not being original is not a problem, at all. Being a plagiator is, copy pasting someone else idea would be bad.

So stick that comment somewhere and next time, instead of making a useless attack at someones idea, just do us all a favour and dont post at all. Nobody cares about your opinion unless it contains something constructive. Shit in a toilet is more useful then your comment.

Pedit:

I'm sorry. I was not aware of any other roles, though I would imagine there would be. I don't browse around too much on this forum.
I tried to make it have better mechanics and not be as over/under-powered as I imagine some of the other suggestions would be.

Why would you apologize for putting down a decently formatted thread with your opinion on a widely suggested idea? Your idea doesnt have to be completedly original, I myself steal ideas from others all the time too and noone seems to care too much, on top of that I tend to focus mostly on "widely suggested ideas" with my take on it.

Dont put up with useless haters - you did well.

Haha.
Did mr 9 yr old learn how to use mum's computer?
I made note that it wasn't original.
In fact, I want to apologies to Sypie, you are kinda new and my comment could have seemed too hostile. You'll get use to it with people like Spectre0 on here.
And the person who wrote the quote above, stupid.
Lots of original ideas suck yeah, but theres no point having 800 fucking 'Fireman' roles blocking up the forum, is there?
And besides, your so stuck up with your dipshit that you don't realise you can't get better at making roles if they are unoriginal, you get the same shit everyone else gets.


I still dislike the title, as it is just about the same as others...
but still...
I apologies to Sypie, but the retard called Mr4..
And believe me.
Im no where near the halfway line of the most aggressive members of the forums.

[Mystoc]

i think as long has OP acknowledges it isnt a orgianal idea it ok to suggest hes taken a well known suggestion and modfied some of it interactions of how it works

examples:

buffs

he changed it to be day ability and more responsive so your choice isnt locked in
changed it to work on mayor

nerfs

can only be used on verdict stage not to vote somone to trial
spy knows if a target was bribed big counter to it
there is one day cooldown to bribe someone (perosonaly im favor of just 3-4 uses of the ability)

i like this it discourages voting for roles becasue suddenly a bg could be guiltied with a majority thanks to the briber

[SypieDypie]

You CAN be bribed if you abstain from voting at first -- though it would be provable in the chat logs that you attempted to abstain, because there would be no message of you voting.

Mystoc, 3/4 uses would nerf it a bit too much for me. It's already slightly underpowered without a revealed mayor. It WOULD force you to use your ability more strictly. Perhaps 4-6 uses?

TimeToReap, please stop flaming. We get it. You don't like my role. If you want to suggest something, that's fine, but otherwise, piss off.

[SypieDypie]

Minor edit to express the fact that it IS overused, but not completely unoriginal.

[SypieDypie]

Everyone following this thread, take the time to vote on the poll, please. Thanks!

[Mroz4k]

I'm not going to quote that entire thing, Mrozk4k, haha, but thanks a lot.
Originality does not define quality, keep that in mind, TimeToReap.
Do you have any other suggestions.

EDIT: The only thing you said you didn't like was how many maf deception roles there are. I too believe that there should be another mafia subcategory, like for Consort, Consig and stuff? No idea. Thanks a lot, still.

Consort, Consig and Blackmailer are already the Mafia Support group which is fine by me.

As far as Mafia Deception goes, we currently have Disguiser, Janitor, Framer and Forger.
Here is what I would suggest: Framer, Forger and Briber as new Mafia Deception.
Janitor and Disguiser as Mafia Cleanup (but I would rather have the Disguiser changed back to what it was, with this slight update - to turn it into a proper "Disguiser" again. The current one would technically work for the Cleanup as well.)

Though I am not so sure how well would that be accepted - pairing one of the best Mafia roles (Janitor) with one relatively useless like Disguiser as two only roles in that group would probably not be a popular choice with the community.

Spoiler: Haha.
Did mr 9 yr old learn how to use mum's computer?
I made note that it wasn't original.
In fact, I want to apologies to Sypie, you are kinda new and my comment could have seemed too hostile. You'll get use to it with people like Spectre0 on here.
And the person who wrote the quote above, stupid.
Lots of original ideas suck yeah, but theres no point having 800 fucking 'Fireman' roles blocking up the forum, is there?
And besides, your so stuck up with your dipshit that you don't realise you can't get better at making roles if they are unoriginal, you get the same shit everyone else gets.


I still dislike the title, as it is just about the same as others...
but still...
I apologies to Sypie, but the retard called Mr4..
And believe me.
Im no where near the halfway line of the most aggressive members of the forums.

Spoiler: Daaamn son, I must have hurt your feelings, didnt I? Im not sorry one bit.

• Im 23, its in my account page, or on my public Twitter, or can be seen in those old videos of TOS I made ages ago. Not that age matters - but the way you bitched about this thing suggests your age is roughly half as mine.
• Your post was hostile, it was intended to be hostile and it was posted with that intention to begin with. Its a bit better that you apologize but it doesnt change the fact you intended to be hostile.
• I have been here for 4 years, I saw way more overused role ideas then you can even imagine. I will tell the OP its overused, but I will do it in a (moreless) civilized manner + I will include constructive opinion AS WELL. Thats the chief difference between us two.
• If you have nothing constructive to say, shut the fuck up. Good advice to live by.
• Your two-worded response breaks the Forum rules about spamming. Best to remember that for future - (for the 10th time, if you have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation, dont post at all. If you need to express yourself, do it in the PRIVATE MESSAGES)
• If you had been here 10th of the time I have been here, you would know better then that telling people their idea is unoriginal is pointless. New people come and make a thread without reading anything first. There is no way to fix this issue.
• This conversation is over. It is off topic, and if you intend to continue with it, it just proves your own immaturity.

If not for any other reason, then because I have 200xtimes more posts then you, you should know to shut up when I tell you to shut up, apologize for your innapropriate behaviour and keep what I told you in mind. Because if you dont, you will make an enemy you dont want.. More then one, actually, considering you are adding to a chief problem.

So shut the fuck up and follow the Forum rules, dont post unless you have something worth posting or learn some modesty and put something meanigful into your replies.
I hope I made myself crystal clear. Good evening

Pedit: You know whats funny? If you witheld meaningless comments on role ideas, those bad overused role ideas would quickly fall to the bottom of the page and would be lost. The issue you complain about wouldnt be an issue if people like you didnt respond to them.
Forum rules about posting quality content
This topic is over, TimetoReap.
If you have something to add, feel free to send me a private message. I dont wish to derail this thread any further.
And I will be more then happy to ignore you in there instead of flooding this decent role idea thread.

i think as long has OP acknowledges it isnt a orgianal idea it ok to suggest hes taken a well known suggestion and modfied some of it interactions of how it works

Only a kid would care if an opinion is original or not.

Different case would be if that author stole the idea and rewrote it to claim it as their own. That would be plagiatorism. But this is not the case, so who cares? As long as the actual conversation is a decent one, it shouldnt matter that the "general idea" is overused. If you had a decent idea, wouldnt you be pissed that someone was bitching that your idea is not original only because 200 people before had bad and terrible ideas based on similar concept? Ask yourself.