My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

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My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Derpyspaghetti » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:55 pm

This is just an idea I had (and posted on the ToS wiki here: http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:130471)

And yes, this is SaltyPatrixxx talking.

I will continue to update changes on both boards.

Alignment: Spoiler: Mafia (Support)

Attributes: Spoiler: Control Immunity (Due to the fact that if a witch controlled this role into itself it would basically destroy it)

Abilities: Spoiler: Once per game, you may deconstruct the gallows for one day to prevent a lynch. Town can still talk during the voting period, but cannot put anyone on trial.

Investigated Results: Spoiler: Investigator: Your Target is good at disrupting others. They could be an Escort, Transporter, Consort, or Deconstructor!

Sheriff: Your target is a member of the Mafia!

Consigliere/Witch: Your Target specialises in demolition. They must be a Deconstructor!


Messages:

Spoiler: You have decided to demolish the gallows tonight.

You have successfully demolished the gallows!

(To Town, when Gallows are demolished) Someone has deconstructed the gallows! You will be unable to lynch anyone until they are rebuilt!


Lore: Spoiler: He always loved to create. He would often make toys, forts, and many other wonderful creations for his siblings. When he was older, he worked as an apprentice to the local handyman, and helped the town with other tasks. Eventually, he grew old enough to start his own business alongside his brother - what else, but making toys and games for the children of the town, and building other things for the town itself. He and his brother started earning an amount, enough for each of them to live out their lives, making and selling their own work.

Of course, as the town's resident builder, he had to help with other jobs, such as constructing houses, and, of course, building the gallows. It was one of these days when he was inspecting his handiwork, that the Sheriff came charging into town accusing his brother of being a member of the Mafia, an armload of faulty evidence clutched in his fist. The Deconstructor and his brother were always close, and he attempted to plead to the townspeople not to lynch him, but to no avail. His brother was lynched on the very gallows he constructed.

He found the GodFather soon enough, and when he did, begged to be allowed to help exact revenge on the Sheriff's faulty findings that had gotten his brother lynched. The GodFather, not being one to turn down an opportunity, noticed that his knowledge of the gallows could be used to save the lives of members of the mafia. He smiled, and let him try to use his skills to exact revenge upon the Sheriff, and everyone else who had led to his brother's lynch.

It's awful lore but it's what I got :P


Example of Play: Spoiler: N1: Mafia accidentally kills surv due to little info, SK kills Sheriff. 7 Townies, 3 Maf, 3 Neutrals.
N2: Mafia hits jailed target, SK kills Escort. 6 Townies, 3 Maf, 3 Neutrals.
D3: Town becomes suspicious of SK, but he buys a night.
N4: SK hits a lucky strike and kills the jailor, Godfather is transported into hitting the SK. 5 Townies, 3 Mafia, 3 Neutrals.
D5: Trans outs herself to get GodFather lynched, but Townies agree SK should be killed first. 5 Townies, 3 Mafia, 2 Neutrals.
N5: Deconstructor Destroys the Gallows, RT Vig kills Mafioso. Mafia Kills Doctor. 4 Townies, 2 Mafia, 2 Neutrals.
D6: Godfather is not lynched, and asks the Neutrals (as 2 Neutral Evils are left alive) to out themselves. Turns out to be Executioner and Witch.
N7: Mafia Celebrates Victory, and kill the Vigilante. 3 Townies, 2 Mafia, 2 Neutrals.
D8: Neutrals side with Mafia, and lynch and kill each townie.


Conclusion: Spoiler: So this is kind of like the Mafia's version of the Retributionist (One big game-changing ability that could clinch a win for Mafia), and seems to me like a much-needed buff to mafia, as well as another obstacle in the way of town's normally easy victory.

I hope this has convinced you that this would be a good role to add to help get in the way of town's normally easy victory, and maybe help mafia's (and in some cases, NK's) poor win rates.

Thanks for reading this. Open to your opinions down below.
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64555 Hypnotist
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/vi ... 27&t=63169 Deconstructor


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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:09 pm

It's just a one night buffer. All it's really good for is if you somehow know one of your buddies is going to be lynched, which is unlikely, or you're just going to use your ability when Mafia is near majority.
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Derpyspaghetti » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:10 pm

HereThereEverywhere wrote:It's just a one night buffer. All it's really good for is if you somehow know one of your buddies is going to be lynched, which is unlikely, or you're just going to use your ability when Mafia is near majority.


I guess you're right, but if you use this right it could be a game-changer (plus, town needs a debuff anyway, and I figure this could work)
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64555 Hypnotist
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/vi ... 27&t=63169 Deconstructor


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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Rosey678 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:58 am

Not going to lie I am not totally against this idea. But I do agree that once you use your ability it's kinda like retri where you are pretty much useless except for a town vote. I do like the concept, though.
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Parallax7 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:47 am

So this role can either take away a win Town rightfully earned, or/and limit one of Town's most powerful abilities.

Voting.

This is also unoriginal. Nice try though.
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Derpyspaghetti » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:05 pm

Joshuabfagan wrote:So this role can either take away a win Town rightfully earned, or/and limit one of Town's most powerful abilities.

Voting.

This is also unoriginal. Nice try though.


What do you mean unoriginal?
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64555 Hypnotist
http://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/vi ... 27&t=63169 Deconstructor


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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby TheWolfBuddy » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:22 pm

he means vote restrictions/nolynches for a day is more common than firefighter
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Skulldug13 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:38 pm

Its a one use wonder. It is deconstucted, the gf gets a kill the next night. They lynch him the next night.
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:39 pm

Skulldug13 wrote:Its a one use wonder. It is deconstucted, the gf gets a kill the next night. They lynch him the next night.

Which is why, like I said, it's only a one-night buffer. It's only really useful if Mafia is one day from majority.
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby Skulldug13 » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:04 pm

HereThereEverywhere wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:Its a one use wonder. It is deconstucted, the gf gets a kill the next night. They lynch him the next night.

Which is why, like I said, it's only a one-night buffer. It's only really useful if Mafia is one day from majority.

Yes, but this role is only useful late game, I don't personally like late game only roles.
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Re: My First Role Idea: Deconstructor

Postby HereThereEverywhere » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:13 pm

Skulldug13 wrote:
HereThereEverywhere wrote:
Skulldug13 wrote:Its a one use wonder. It is deconstucted, the gf gets a kill the next night. They lynch him the next night.

Which is why, like I said, it's only a one-night buffer. It's only really useful if Mafia is one day from majority.

Yes, but this role is only useful late game, I don't personally like late game only roles.

Yeah I know, I was just going off what you said. I don't like it either.
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