The Kid (CiaraApproved) (100+ Replies)

[RagetimeGal]

FOR EVERYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT KIDS KNOWING THE ROLES OF THE PEOPLE THEY VISIT, WHO THEY WHISPER TO, THEY DO NOT KNOW. ALL THEY KNOW ARE THEIR TOP 3 ROLE CHOICES TO CHOOSE FROM. CHILDREN ALSO DO NOT KNOW THEIR POINT TOTAL, JUST THEIR TOP THREE ROLE CHOICES. Where did you even get that from? (just in case you comment something similar to that again)

Your role is the Kid.
You're a child who's growing up in the insane town of Salem.

Role Name: Kid

Role Alignment: Neutral(Benign)

Attributes: You will pick a role to become when you grow up. Your role options once an adult will be strongly influenced by what you are exposed to as a kid.

Wins with: Wins with whoever they grew up to win with, but always wins with Survivor.

Goal: Grow up to an adult with a profession. You win with whatever profession you pick.

Special Attributes: If killed by the Mafia in the Child Phase, the mafioso/godfather will commit suicide over the guilt of killing a small child. The serial killer will not commit suicide over killing a child, but won't kill the next night over anger of not getting the child to join him. Children will also grow in 3 phases.

Additional Information (comments):

Consig- Your target is youthful and easily persuaded. You're target must be a kid.
Sheriff- Your target is not suspicious.
Investigator- (If the kid is in the teen phase) You're target is young and beautiful. They must be an Escort, Consort, or a Teenager.
Investigator-(if kid is in child phase) Your target is foolish. They must be a Jester or a kid.
(Child to Teen Transition Msg) You look older then you were before. You're a teenager now!
(visited by kid msg) A kid looks up to you. They want to be like you.

Child
When they are a child, they will have a randomly assigned parent (the child will live in the parent's home, but still appear as if they own a house, let's say it's a vacant house). If the child is killed, the parent will grieve the next day, they won't even show up to the town's center, they will stay inside the home until the next morning (and will be roleblocked to grieve the next night also). Parents, regardless of their role, will help "raise" their child. When the child is young, anything that happens in their life will be twice as effective. Children can also visit somebody at night and be influenced by the role of their visitor. Children can't write last wills, as their parent deemed them to young to think about death. Children will move to the next phase, teenager, in two days.

Teenager
The parent of the teenager still won't appear at day after their teenager is dead, but they will be able to use their night ability. Teenagers can also be influenced by going to somebody's house. The teenager will become an adult in another two days. The kid will help their role be decided when they grow up on this point system.

Parent Died,- +2 for Veteran, Retributionist, and Bodyguard, Investigator, and +1 for Serial Killer.
Parents Cause of Death, -3 For whatever Killed their parent. (If a Vigilante killed their parent, three points will be removed to be a Vigil)
Being Witched, +1 for the Witch.
Being Saved by a Doc or BG, +2 For Doctor and Survivor
Seeing a Mafia kill Another Mafia, +2 for Witch, -1 for Mafia
Seeing a Revived Person, +1 for Medium, Witch, and Retributionist
Whatever Role their Parent is, +3.5
Seeing a Jester Die, +1.5 for Jester, Mafia, and Serial Killer. -1 for Survivor and Veteran
Being Blackmailed, +1 for Escort and Mafia
Being Doused, +1 for Transporter, Veteran, and Survivor
Being Revived, +2.5 for Survivor, Retri, and Medium
Whispering with Mafia, +1.5 for Mafia (if a mafia whispers to you and you whisper to them back, you will be influenced)
Psycho Trait, +1 for Mafia, SK, and Witch (there is a %20 chance a kid will get the psycho trait)
Visiting Somebody, +1 for Whatever their Role is.
Children will be Two Times more influenced by the Point-System (A child will gain two points for being witched, but a teenager only one)
BTW I removed children getting 0.1 points if there's a swear word, it could abused

Adult
There will be three roles to choose from. These three role options have the most points in them. If you have 6 points to be a doctor, 4.5 to be a mafia member, and 2 points to be a survivor, and 1 point to be a jester, you will choose to be a Doctor, Mafia Member, or Survivor. The town will not get a message if you choose to be a Serial Killer (like the amnesiac), it will just say A kid has aged into an adult. If a kid chose to be a mafia, they will randomly get a mafia role, except for the Godfather. If there is no other mafia left, they will be the new Godfather.

PLEASE LEAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS BELOW AND YOUR OPINIONS!
Oh yea, this is my first role idea .

FAQ Note: Most of these questions were already in the explanation, you were just to lazy to find them
Spoiler: Does a child know their parent?
You're parent/child is displayed in a little box of its own, like one the mafia has so mafia members know each other. AND WHAT DO YOU THINK DO YOU KNOW YOUR MOM'S NAME?
Can a parent be a serial-killer?
Yup.
But it's just like an amnesiac.
With amnesiacs you need a graveyard role. With kids people who are dead and alive can help them choose their role. Kids are also like veterans, the mafia and the serial killer will want to avoid. Kid are yes, kind of like a second amnesiac but powerful, fun to play with, yet still balanced. A better amnesiac.
Isn't four days long? They'll be killed off by then.
Well the mafia won't be kill happy during the first few days, everyone will want to ally with them, it's fun to use so you're not just waiting, amnesiacs don't usually pick till 3-5 days, I could go on
But then you'd know somebody's role by visiting them!
It just adds to your point total. WHERE DID I SAY YOU'D LEARN THEIR ROLE?
But you'd still know who's mafia by whispering to them.
All it does is add to the point total. Nowhere does it says "you'll get a message saying you were influenced by Larry because you whispered to him earlier".

[MagicChicken]

I really love this idea.

[Kaboosh]

I actually like this role.

[Natsumehack]

Oh wow a unique role that is different, and offers a new style of play.

[testaccount1234]

The only problem I have is people spamming the f word so they can be mafia/SK. (But yet again, it might encourage people to expand on their vocabulary).

[Natsumehack]

The only problem I have is people spamming the f word so they can be mafia/SK. (But yet again, it might encourage people to expand on their vocabulary).

Then we might be tipped off more there a child.

[WeepingDemons]

Much more different than all of the other roles in ToS, I like it.

[chitownmvp01]

I like the idea. Can evil roles be the parents? And do parents know who their child is?

[chitownmvp01]

Perhaps once the child becomes an adult, they can choose which side to represent in the game. It would reveal that side to the town just like the amnesiac remembering.

[DemonSlayerElf]

i LOVE this role, and that's saying a LOT, because i have looked through almost all of them, this is one of the best I've ever seen.
my only problem is the cuss words in chat, i mean, cussing is discouraged in-game for one.
and even if it gave an obvious show of being a child, how would it be detected? something could be coded, easily, really,
but there are HUNDREDS, not easy to code them all in

[Nellyfox]

Ditch swear words getting you points for mafia and SK and this role would be something I'd love to play.

[Meanatic]

This is so amazing and unique. I definitely would have never thought of this.

[DemonSlayerElf]

there should be more unique roles, i'll try my hand at it, i know that, but don't worry, i wont use your idea

[Ciara]

Well this is a cool role
But it will end up being played very similar to the anme

Not necessarily. Amne can choose from any dead role. The Child can choose a role that may not even be in-game.

[Yak]

The one problem I have with this is how long it takes to actually get a role. The game will be at least half over before they can actually do anything.

[XenobladeHero]

This seems a bit time consuming...

[Ciara]

Anything written in italics are simply my notes and opinion, not part of the role itself.

This role is split into three parts, but the latter two cannot be chosen in-game. The only way for them to appear in-game is if a Kid is in-game and lives past the child stage.

Role: Kid
Spoiler: Alignment: Neutral(Benign)

Abilities:
- Become a teenager.
- Visit one person each night.

Attributes:
- Your role options once an adult will be strongly influenced by what you are exposed to as a kid.

Goal: Grow up to become an adult and choose a profession.
If the game ends while you are a kid: Wins with everyone.

Investigator result: Your target now, I'm not quite sure what to put here. It works best if you make your own role category/fit it into a pre-made one (making it so that your previous grouping with Jester would not work. Perhaps "enjoys tricking people. They could be a Jester, Disguiser, or Kid", "is a loner. They could be a Witch, Survivor, or Kid, or maybe just "is childish. They must be a Kid!" and have it be in it's own category altogether?
Consigliere result: Your target is youthful and easily persuaded. They must be a Kid!
Sheriff result: Your target is not suspicious.

How the role works:
In the game, you will have a randomly generated "parently figure". This person will still have whatever role they would originally have, just with the added responsibility of a parent.
If killed by Mafioso/Godfather, the killer will commit suicide the next night over the guilt of killing such a young child.
If killed by a Serial Killer, the killer will be roleblocked the next night out of anger of not getting the child to join them.
If killed, the next day the parent will go through the day as a spectator without the ability to speak, vote, or participate in any other activity. Their character will not even show up on the day screen that day. That night, they will also be roleblocked, but may speak if in jail, spoken to by a Medium, or part of the Mafia.
You will become a Teenager in at the start of Day 3.

Messages:
Your kid was killed! You stay home to grieve.
Your kid was killed! You are devastated and forget to do anything tonight.
You killed a kid! You can't handle the guilt and commit suicide.
You killed a kid! You don't do anything tonight out of anger of loosing a possible ally.
You are older than before. You're now a Teenager!

Kids will be influenced by the following scoring chart:
Parent's death: +4 for Veteran, Retributionist, BodyGuard, and Investigator. +2 for Serial Killer.
Parent's killer: -6 for whatever killed their parent.
Controlled by Witch: +2 for Witch.
Saved by Doctor/BodyGuard: +4 for Doctor and Survivor.
Mafia death by Mafia: +4 for Witch and Transporter, -2 for Mafia.
Resurrection: +2 for Medium, Witch, and Retributionist.
Parent's role: +6 for role of parent.
Jester's public lynching: +3 for Jester, Mafia, and Serial Killer.
Blackmailed: +2 for Escort and Mafia.
Doused: +2 for Transporter, Veteran, and Survivor.
Whispering to Mafia: +3 for Mafia.
Visiting: +2 for role of the person you visit.
I removed some of the Categories that didn't quite make sense (i.e. being resurrected as a neutral) and changed the point value of the parent's role because it made it almost 100% you will join your parent.

I WILL EDIT THIS SOON AND ADD TEENAGER/ADULT BUT FOR NOW I'M REALLY TIRED AND JUST DEVOTED 2.5 HOURS INTO TYPING THIS ALL UP. PLEASE RESPOND WITH CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AS I THINK I MAY CRY IF I JUST SPENT 2.5 HOURS ON SOMETHING EVERYONE HATES. THANK YOU.

[Ciara]

Anything written in italics are simply my notes and opinion, not part of the role itself.

This role is split into three parts, but the latter two cannot be chosen in-game. The only way for them to appear in-game is if a Kid is in-game and lives past the child stage.

Role: Kid
Spoiler: Alignment: Neutral(Benign)

Abilities:
- Become a teenager.
- Visit one person each night.

Attributes:
- Your role options once an adult will be strongly influenced by what you are exposed to as a kid.

Goal: Grow up to become an adult and choose a profession.
If the game ends while you are a kid: Wins with everyone.

Investigator result: Your target now, I'm not quite sure what to put here. It works best if you make your own role category/fit it into a pre-made one (making it so that your previous grouping with Jester would not work. Perhaps "enjoys tricking people. They could be a Jester, Disguiser, or Kid", "is a loner. They could be a Witch, Survivor, or Kid, or maybe just "is childish. They must be a Kid!" and have it be in it's own category altogether?
Consigliere result: Your target is youthful and easily persuaded. They must be a Kid!
Sheriff result: Your target is not suspicious.

How the role works:
In the game, you will have a randomly generated "parently figure". This person will still have whatever role they would originally have, just with the added responsibility of a parent.
If killed by Mafioso/Godfather, the killer will commit suicide the next night over the guilt of killing such a young child.
If killed by a Serial Killer, the killer will be roleblocked the next night out of anger of not getting the child to join them.
If killed, the next day the parent will go through the day as a spectator without the ability to speak, vote, or participate in any other activity. Their character will not even show up on the day screen that day. That night, they will also be roleblocked, but may speak if in jail, spoken to by a Medium, or part of the Mafia.
You will become a Teenager in at the start of Day 3.

Messages:
Your kid was killed! You stay home to grieve.
Your kid was killed! You are devastated and forget to do anything tonight.
You killed a kid! You can't handle the guilt and commit suicide.
You killed a kid! You don't do anything tonight out of anger of loosing a possible ally.
You are older than before. You're now a Teenager!

Kids will be influenced by the following scoring chart:
Parent's death: +4 for Veteran, Retributionist, BodyGuard, and Investigator. +2 for Serial Killer.
Parent's killer: -6 for whatever killed their parent.
Controlled by Witch: +2 for Witch.
Saved by Doctor/BodyGuard: +4 for Doctor and Survivor.
Mafia death by Mafia: +4 for Witch and Transporter, -2 for Mafia.
Resurrection: +2 for Medium, Witch, and Retributionist.
Parent's role: +6 for role of parent.
Jester's public lynching: +3 for Jester, Mafia, and Serial Killer.
Blackmailed: +2 for Escort and Mafia.
Doused: +2 for Transporter, Veteran, and Survivor.
Whispering to Mafia: +3 for Mafia.
Visiting: +2 for role of the person you visit.
I removed some of the Categories that didn't quite make sense (i.e. being resurrected as a neutral) and changed the point value of the parent's role because it made it almost 100% you will join your parent.

I WILL EDIT THIS SOON AND ADD TEENAGER/ADULT BUT FOR NOW I'M REALLY TIRED AND JUST DEVOTED 2.5 HOURS INTO TYPING THIS ALL UP. PLEASE RESPOND WITH CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AS I THINK I MAY CRY IF I JUST SPENT 2.5 HOURS ON SOMETHING EVERYONE HATES. THANK YOU.

I quite like this
I think it would belong in the loner or on its own
Also on what day would this role choose it's new role?

Er... well it's moved to Teenager on the start of day 3, so... it becomes and adult day 5... meaning night 4 is when you can start deciding what you want to be, if I did the math right.

[Ciara]

I quite like this
I think it would belong in the loner or on its own
Also on what day would this role choose it's new role?

Er... well it's moved to Teenager on the start of day 3, so... it becomes and adult day 5... meaning night 4 is when you can start deciding what you want to be, if I did the math right.

Hmm still feel like it's a tad long but can't be sure unless you can test it

When do you normally choose a role as Amnesiac? Night four? It's not that long, dude. It's okay.

[XenobladeHero]

It just seems long to me

Same

[DemonSlayerElf]

okay, this is a great role, i think i said it up above, but the "whispering the mafia" thing, you'd instantly know who was mafia, at least one of them.
I'm not sure if it's cheating, but you could just whisper everyone, and note who gives points, you know where I'm going with this.

[Demonologist]

Great idea, but I think the kids should not know the roles of people they visited or their own parents. & They should be automatically be assigned a role due to what role has the most points. It should only be announced that a teen has now become an adult & not what role they became. And if shot by a vet the vet loses all remaining alerts

[XenobladeHero]

This quite frankly seems long and complicated to me, sadly Ciara, you've disappointed me, ~Anime tears run town my face as I run off~

[Doobledore]

I don't know.. I like the idea of the role, but I think it would just be sick seeing someone kill a kid. :p

[Arckas]

This is one well thought out idea for a role and its pretty cool!

Seems like a role that could pretty much summarize what happened throughout the game depending on what role come more frequently. Statistics but in role form.