Interviewer (Town Investigative)

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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:53 pm

Ok, been experimenting with this role and with the comment above asking would it be better if the groups were alignments and abilities. What I found is that it does work... but I believe that is even more confusing remembering the order of the abilities than remembering which roles are in each category currently because how it is now is where everyone will except these roles to belong. Also with the comparing roles mechanic, if you compare a confirmed evil role with another target and it says they are in the same category it just auto-confirms that target and also there are lots of roles with lots of different abilities which can't really be categorised neatly. That's just my opinion


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby kookeekwisp » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:53 pm

It just hit me... This role is crap!

(before i get hate, Crap means UP, not bad) Compare it to every other TI. We got a surefire pinpointer, an accurate role viewer, an all-hearing informant, a murder witness, And an extremely vague speculator.

This is why you need multiple categories, and heavy Town in lower ones.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:05 am

kookeekwisp wrote:It just hit me... This role is crap!

(before i get hate, Crap means UP, not bad) Compare it to every other TI. We got a surefire pinpointer, an accurate role viewer, an all-hearing informant, a murder witness, And an extremely vague speculator.

This is why you need multiple categories, and heavy Town in lower ones.

Ok, thanks for the feedback I really needed this. I will experiment with this because tons of people are saying to
HAVE MORE CATEGORIES!!!
and out of the sum ups of the roles you said above, what I would like as an end result is this role to not find evils but find people to trust


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Tue Oct 04, 2016 5:36 am

Ok I got an idea. Have 2 versions, one with the current idea and one with an alignment inspector. Now here is how I thought it would work:
1Your target has an observative altitude investigatives amd deceptive
2Your target has a supportive altitude supports
3Your target has a determined altitude protectives and killings
4 your target has a mysterious altitude evils benigns and chaoses

You will get who is more trusted like normal
If both of your targets have the same altitude their altitude will be revealed to you

Massive buff idea. Keeps it claimable but makes it a more usefull. Just thought of it as an alternate version and not a replacement
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:25 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok I got an idea. Have 2 versions, one with the current idea and one with an alignment inspector. Now here is how I thought it would work:
1Your target has an observative altitude investigatives amd deceptive
2Your target has a supportive altitude supports
3Your target has a determined altitude protectives and killings
4 your target has a mysterious altitude evils benigns and chaoses

You will get who is more trusted like normal
If both of your targets have the same altitude their altitude will be revealed to you

Massive buff idea. Keeps it claimable but makes it a more usefull. Just thought of it as an alternate version and not a replacement

I feel this role could work as an entirely separate one than this one as these attributes you gave are very different to them currently but I really like this idea for a role. Because you came up with the idea yourself and without anyone I think you should publish this role as your own and I'll support you with it because I think it's very clever and balenced atm but I think I'll stay with this idea for now and experiment with more categories for Trusted roles


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:38 am

BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok I got an idea. Have 2 versions, one with the current idea and one with an alignment inspector. Now here is how I thought it would work:
1Your target has an observative altitude investigatives amd deceptive
2Your target has a supportive altitude supports
3Your target has a determined altitude protectives and killings
4 your target has a mysterious altitude evils benigns and chaoses

You will get who is more trusted like normal
If both of your targets have the same altitude their altitude will be revealed to you

Massive buff idea. Keeps it claimable but makes it a more usefull. Just thought of it as an alternate version and not a replacement

I feel this role could work as an entirely separate one than this one as these attributes you gave are very different to them currently but I really like this idea for a role. Because you came up with the idea yourself and without anyone I think you should publish this role as your own and I'll support you with it because I think it's very clever and balenced atm but I think I'll stay with this idea for now and experiment with more categories for Trusted roles

Cool, I understand. Gotta tweak with it before it's an actuall role because right now it's in a grey are between your role and a new one. Can't wait to see the changes you make though
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:33 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok I got an idea. Have 2 versions, one with the current idea and one with an alignment inspector. Now here is how I thought it would work:
1Your target has an observative altitude investigatives amd deceptive
2Your target has a supportive altitude supports
3Your target has a determined altitude protectives and killings
4 your target has a mysterious altitude evils benigns and chaoses

You will get who is more trusted like normal
If both of your targets have the same altitude their altitude will be revealed to you

Massive buff idea. Keeps it claimable but makes it a more usefull. Just thought of it as an alternate version and not a replacement

I feel this role could work as an entirely separate one than this one as these attributes you gave are very different to them currently but I really like this idea for a role. Because you came up with the idea yourself and without anyone I think you should publish this role as your own and I'll support you with it because I think it's very clever and balenced atm but I think I'll stay with this idea for now and experiment with more categories for Trusted roles

Cool, I understand. Gotta tweak with it before it's an actuall role because right now it's in a grey are between your role and a new one. Can't wait to see the changes you make though

Still working on it, I just need to shuffle some roles around so each group has claimspace available


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:11 pm

BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok I got an idea. Have 2 versions, one with the current idea and one with an alignment inspector. Now here is how I thought it would work:
1Your target has an observative altitude investigatives amd deceptive
2Your target has a supportive altitude supports
3Your target has a determined altitude protectives and killings
4 your target has a mysterious altitude evils benigns and chaoses

You will get who is more trusted like normal
If both of your targets have the same altitude their altitude will be revealed to you

Massive buff idea. Keeps it claimable but makes it a more usefull. Just thought of it as an alternate version and not a replacement

I feel this role could work as an entirely separate one than this one as these attributes you gave are very different to them currently but I really like this idea for a role. Because you came up with the idea yourself and without anyone I think you should publish this role as your own and I'll support you with it because I think it's very clever and balenced atm but I think I'll stay with this idea for now and experiment with more categories for Trusted roles

Cool, I understand. Gotta tweak with it before it's an actuall role because right now it's in a grey are between your role and a new one. Can't wait to see the changes you make though

Still working on it, I just need to shuffle some roles around so each group has claimspace available

Just not too much because we are meant to give this guy a buff. Try considering invests results and splitting some roles from there apart.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:35 pm

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Ok I got an idea. Have 2 versions, one with the current idea and one with an alignment inspector. Now here is how I thought it would work:
1Your target has an observative altitude investigatives amd deceptive
2Your target has a supportive altitude supports
3Your target has a determined altitude protectives and killings
4 your target has a mysterious altitude evils benigns and chaoses

You will get who is more trusted like normal
If both of your targets have the same altitude their altitude will be revealed to you

Massive buff idea. Keeps it claimable but makes it a more usefull. Just thought of it as an alternate version and not a replacement

I feel this role could work as an entirely separate one than this one as these attributes you gave are very different to them currently but I really like this idea for a role. Because you came up with the idea yourself and without anyone I think you should publish this role as your own and I'll support you with it because I think it's very clever and balenced atm but I think I'll stay with this idea for now and experiment with more categories for Trusted roles

Cool, I understand. Gotta tweak with it before it's an actuall role because right now it's in a grey are between your role and a new one. Can't wait to see the changes you make though

Still working on it, I just need to shuffle some roles around so each group has claimspace available

Just not too much because we are meant to give this guy a buff. Try considering invests results and splitting some roles from there apart.

The results are up now and that's basically what I have done. Any problems please tell me and I'll try to fix it :)


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:39 pm

Please can I have some feedback on my new results for the Interviewer so I know how to improve them


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby kookeekwisp » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:02 pm

I already told you my feedback. Literally all you did was put more categories, and they're WAY TOO BALANCED!
Investigator knows which role group their target's in, and it's meant to be completely balanced.

This role doesn't know what category either role's in. Combined with a balanced list, this role is one of the most UP ideas in all of history. (and why does the least trusted category have more Town than the third list?)
Make the list less even, or this role is horribly UP.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 12:13 am

kookeekwisp wrote:I already told you my feedback. Literally all you did was put more categories, and they're WAY TOO BALANCED!
Investigator knows which role group their target's in, and it's meant to be completely balanced.

This role doesn't know what category either role's in. Combined with a balanced list, this role is one of the most UP ideas in all of history. (and why does the least trusted category have more Town than the third list?)
Make the list less even, or this role is horribly UP.

What I've done this time however is separate the roles in the same investigator result so if this role was joint with an Investigator they can eliminate any claims

Example of how it would play out:
Interviewer interviews Arsonist and Mafioso
Get a message saying "Arsonist is the most trustworthy"
Arsonist dies the next night, revealing his role so now you know someone who is in the lowest category
Mafioso claims Veteran because he though there was an Investigator however this role doesn't have Veteran in this result which exposes him as Mafioso

But yes I'll fix them, I did it late at night so they aren't the best
(And what I did to balence them is added up the Town and NB to be good roles and the rest as bad roles so in the results the second to last result has 3 Town and 1 NB and the last one has 4 Town to they cancel out)


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Wed Oct 05, 2016 4:53 am

I think you should swap disguiser and sk and move janitor down 2-3 categories. Otherwise they are pretty good
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:49 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:I think you should swap disguiser and sk and move janitor down 2-3 categories. Otherwise they are pretty good

I moved Janitor down one (idk why I put it in first actually) but I wasn't sure about SK being moved higher though as there are already Arsonist in the that group and I wanted it so that all NKs are in the same group
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:50 am

Roles swapped since:

Janitor and Bodyguard
Disguiser and Vigilante
Consigliere and Lookout


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:43 am

Would like a vh and sk change but it's up to you. These are looking pretty solid
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:15 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:Would like a vh and sk change but it's up to you. These are looking pretty solid

We'll see for now, if SK and VH were to swap though then third will have more scum than the forth but I am thinking about moving VH into the lowest result as Vampires with Vampire Hunters should go together as it is a good claim for Vamps


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby randomguyhavingfun » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:47 am

BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Would like a vh and sk change but it's up to you. These are looking pretty solid

We'll see for now, if SK and VH were to swap though then third will have more scum than the forth but I am thinking about moving VH into the lowest result as Vampires with Vampire Hunters should go together as it is a good claim for Vamps

I think this s counteracted by the fact that 3 has 3 good claims in it and 4 has mafioso. If you are worried but want to implement this you can always try getting the consort in 4
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:51 am

randomguyhavingfun wrote:
BS4125 wrote:
randomguyhavingfun wrote:Would like a vh and sk change but it's up to you. These are looking pretty solid

We'll see for now, if SK and VH were to swap though then third will have more scum than the forth but I am thinking about moving VH into the lowest result as Vampires with Vampire Hunters should go together as it is a good claim for Vamps

I think this s counteracted by the fact that 3 has 3 good claims in it and 4 has mafioso. If you are worried but want to implement this you can always try getting the consort in 4

I'll see how the response to this one goes and if there are a lot of people who think that this should happen I'll add it it ;)


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BlazinIce » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:54 am

Move Bodyguard to the 2nd level. Otherwise, good.
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 8:33 am

BlazinIce wrote:Move Bodyguard to the 2nd level. Otherwise, good.

Done, swapped with Veteran


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby ArrivedRocket » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:30 pm

I think that the trust level for werewolf should be fairly high, but when it is a full moon they change to untrustworthy, similar how the results change for the sheriff

Other than that I think this could be a great addition!
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BS4125 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:57 pm

ArrivedRocket wrote:I think that the trust level for werewolf should be fairly high, but when it is a full moon they change to untrustworthy, similar how the results change for the sheriff

Other than that I think this could be a great addition!
/support

The thing is the majority of the time when you visit a Werewolf you die anyway unless a Doctor heals you but even then it just makes it really complicated for just a small buff. Thanks for the feedback though :D


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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby BlazinIce » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:18 pm

Put investigator in bottom level
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Re: Interviewer (Town Investigative)

Postby ArrivedRocket » Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:20 pm

BS4125 wrote:The thing is the majority of the time when you visit a Werewolf you die anyway unless a Doctor heals you but even then it just makes it really complicated for just a small buff. Thanks for the feedback though


You don't die if you visit a werewolf when they are attacking someone else (which they normally do), but yeah, I see how it could possibly complicate the role.
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