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Conjurer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:36 am

Conjurer


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Alignment: Neutral Evil

Immunities: Bite immune, Witch immune

Investigation results:
SheriffYour target is not suspicious.
Investigator - Your target works with dead bodies. They could be the Medium, Janitor,Retributionist, Necromancer, Trapper or Conjurer.
Consigliere - Your target is surrounded by evil souls, they must be Conjurer.

Lore:
The town of Salem was about to be peaceful again, the final interrogations were held by the Jailor and by the Sheriff, when something went terribly wrong. Someone kicked the Mayor's door, and stabbed his back. He was alive, but due the pain he couldn’t see anything. He knows someone was carrying him, but never expected something like that. Soon after, He was laying on a table, chained and a lunatic laughed next to him. He was surrounded by magical signs and blood. He felt nothing when he slit the mayors throat. The seance has begun and a psychopathic soul has returned to Earth. Next day the serial killers lynched the sheriff, by the order of "mayor" and stabbed the jailor to death. The Conjurer was laughing and watched how the town descended into chaos.

Winning conditions:
Wins with: Mafia, Vampires, Witch, Survivor, Arsonist, Serial Killer, Werewolf, Exectuioner, Jester, Coven, Conjurer
Must kill: Town

Special: Unique Role

Summary: You are a crazy wizard, who can manipulate evil souls.


Abilities:
Revive any neutral, or mafia member.

Attributes:
- Pick anyone from graveyard to revive.Then:
- Target someone every 2nd night to request its soul. A message will appear to the chosen death characters allies: “The Necromancer requires ” _____s” soul to revive its target.” If the character, who you want to be revived has no allies, the message will appear to all Neutral Benign and Neutral Evil roles as well.
- If you own a soul, you will automatically resurrect the selected user. Your target (the soul) and the resurrected user swap name and character.
- If there are no neutral/mafia/coven roles left, you automatically loose.
- You may revive only two character, both from a different role and team.

Goal:
- Survive to see the Town lose the game.

Achievements:
Igor, fetch me the brain! - Win your first game as Conjurer
Forbidden magic tricks - Win 5 games as Conjurer
Sorcerer - Win 10 games as Conjurer
Skilled in dark magic - Win 25 games as Conjurer
Funny Enough – Resurrect the jester
With our magics combined – Resurrect the witch
Survived the death – Revive the survivor.
Revive for Hire – Resurrect the Godfather
Psychopathic revive- Ressurect the Serial Killer
Fire it up – Resurrect the Arsonist
Good boy – Revive the werewolf.
Hiding in the shadows – Win without reviving anyone.
Did something went wrong? – Your target and your resurrected character has the same role.
I was on your side… - Get killed by the person you revived.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby SofiaShe » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:41 am

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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Damafaud » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:06 am

Wow, you are good.

An evil Retributionist can't do any good, though. Why?

Imagine a Mafioso is lynched in the day. At the night, you revive the Mafioso. The next day, the Mafioso is alive and well again.
Town will just lynch him again. And now they know there is a Necromancer in town.

This role can never be added to the game.
However, the layout of this role is surprisingly well.

Try to create a different role, and this time, take time to read orange thread on what roles NOT to make.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:11 am

Wow, you are good.

An evil Retributionist can't do any good, though. Why?

Imagine a Mafioso is lynched in the day. At the night, you revive the Mafioso. The next day, the Mafioso is alive and well again.
Town will just lynch him again. And now they know there is a Necromancer in town.

This role can never be added to the game.
However, the layout of this role is surprisingly well.

Try to create a different role, and this time, take time to read orange thread on what roles NOT to make.


Please take your team and read it again, you ignored the line I wrote:
- If you own a soul, you will automatically resurrect the selected user. Your target (the soul) and the resurrected user swap name and character.


Works like disguiser without death on that day.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby malbroud » Fri Aug 26, 2016 9:39 am

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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HereToPlay » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:21 am

/support

If I understand it correctly, this role only revives people at night, correct?
I'm just here to play, but if I win, it's all good for me!!!

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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:53 pm

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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby BrianLy » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:07 pm

I honestly think the other Necromancer roles are better due to the fact that it converts a confirmed townie into a hardworking mafia.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Mroz4k » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:16 pm

This is somewhat similar to my take on the Necromancer role. But this one has the "soul" request feature.

Problem with this is that the Necromancer has no control over when the target will be ressurected, and as whom. If you did it this way, even though they would be disguised as said Town, the Town would deduce very quickly the new identity of the ressed player by crosschecking the recent dead flips.

BrianLy wrote:I honestly think the other Necromancer roles are better due to the fact that it converts a confirmed townie into a hardworking mafia.

Yea... because conversion roles worked sooooo well in the past...

No. Bad. You´d turn a person from one to another spectrum of goals. Would be pretty obvious for starters. Second, it would make you basically game-throw the game for whichever faction you have been before.

No, this sounds a lot better then what you are suggesting, BrianLy.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:05 am

Maybe if everything would disappear about the character who must be killed? The death characters role and will is merged into the one, who is not death, but nothing is shown about the target?


The only way the town would figure it out, is if the player tells it in death chat and only if there is a medium alive.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Damafaud » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:33 am

Sorry I misread, but then it's cool. But I think if:

- If there are no neutral/mafia roles left, you will become Jester and lose.

Why bother turning him into a Jester at all?
Or just like an Executioner, make him a Jester that CAN win as Jester.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Sat Aug 27, 2016 1:12 am

Damafaud wrote:Sorry I misread, but then it's cool. But I think if:

- If there are no neutral/mafia roles left, you will become Jester and lose.

Why bother turning him into a Jester at all?
Or just like an Executioner, make him a Jester that CAN win as Jester.


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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:26 am

Is everything okay with it now?
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Spectre0 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:11 am

No support. It's ridiculously OP to allow an NK to be revived, for example.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby itsmejacob » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:15 pm

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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Deldris » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:34 pm

So does the Neutral you take the soul of die? Because if so, nobody would ever do that, save for an Exe who won.
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Re: Necromancer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:57 pm

It does, just like with the disguiser.
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New name, update

Postby HUBen » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:37 am

Some update with this role:

- Renamed to Warlock, due Coven already added Necromancer as role with new abilities
- Updated investigator results to fit coven
- Turning jester changed to: If there are no neutral/mafia/coven roles left, you automatically loose.
(Just like the withc)

Also, I would be glad to hear some more feedback, and i am suggesting to moving it to testing ground.
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Re: Warlock [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Parallax7 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:39 am

You renamed it to a TG role's name.
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Re: Warlock [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:41 am

Parallax7 wrote:You renamed it to a TG role's name.



Uh, this is awkward. Sorry :/

I am open to name suggestions tho, Necromancer would simply fit the role, but it is taken, thanks to coven... :/
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Re: Warlock [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Parallax7 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:42 am

Anything, I don't really care, but thought I'd let you know my role Warlock is in TG, so.
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Re: Warlock [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Gooose26 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:46 am

orangeandblack5 wrote:Evil Retributionist - Any role that can revive Neutral or Mafia roles

This was specifically written in the "Role Ideas Not to Make"

Because any revived evil player was already exposed as just that, evil. THat means that they will immediately be killed the next day. Even though this stalls a bit of time in the end it is useless other than taking away a night from town killings. As a "Warlock" (Name needs the change as said above) has no good abilities then it would be an instant loss.
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Re: Warlock [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:52 am

Gooose26 wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Evil Retributionist - Any role that can revive Neutral or Mafia roles

This was specifically written in the "Role Ideas Not to Make"

Because any revived evil player was already exposed as just that, evil. THat means that they will immediately be killed the next day. Even though this stalls a bit of time in the end it is useless other than taking away a night from town killings. As a "Warlock" (Name needs the change as said above) has no good abilities then it would be an instant loss.



I will try to find a new name.
"THat means that they will immediately be killed the next day." It works like a disguiser, with retributionist skill. As the description say, their identity would remain hidden if they know how to lie ;).


Edit: Renamed to Conjurer.
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Re: Warlock [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby Gooose26 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:56 am

HUBen wrote:
Gooose26 wrote:
orangeandblack5 wrote:Evil Retributionist - Any role that can revive Neutral or Mafia roles

This was specifically written in the "Role Ideas Not to Make"

Because any revived evil player was already exposed as just that, evil. THat means that they will immediately be killed the next day. Even though this stalls a bit of time in the end it is useless other than taking away a night from town killings. As a "Warlock" (Name needs the change as said above) has no good abilities then it would be an instant loss.



I will try to find a new name.
"THat means that they will immediately be killed the next day." It works like a disguiser, with retributionist skill. As the description say, their identity would remain hidden if they know how to lie ;).


Edit: Renamed to Conjurer.

Alright I didn't understand it but still...

orangeandblack5 wrote:Evil Retributionist - Any role that can revive Neutral or Mafia roles

This was specifically written in the "Role Ideas Not to Make"
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Re: Conjurer [Unique design, Lore, Achievements]

Postby HUBen » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:01 am

I understand your point, but still... the topic suggests it, because they would get lynched immediately, due they are confirmed evil. In my role the target (the soul) and the resurrected user swap name and character. So this is like a disguiser, the evils identity is safe.
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