Osservatore (Mafia Support)

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:53 pm

Kirize12 wrote:Exacerbated's* and fuck parity cop. No reason for it to be in the game when sheriff is.

Current Spy, with the mafia visiting ability removed, is fine.

IMO, I don't think any role should be reading whispers.

If there are no confirmed Townies in Ranked, removal of TPw roles, removal of Spy, making Trans silent, removal of DAs etc then Mafia Reading Whispers isn't needed.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:43 pm

Why fuck parity cop

It's objectively more interesting than Sheriff

Has a higher skill cieling too
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby ManateeDude » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:45 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:Why fuck parity cop

It's objectively more interesting than Sheriff

Has a higher skill cieling too


Ditto. Also it can find GF and Ne's
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:48 pm

We don’t need it and Sheriff. Having both is redundant and dumb.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby ManateeDude » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:38 pm

ManateeDude wrote:Also it can find GF and NE's

and Arso/Elec/Slaughterer/Butcher
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:45 pm

Kirize12 wrote:We don’t need it and Sheriff. Having both is redundant and dumb.

To be fair, any individual slot can only be one or the other anyways

Plus, its high skill cieling is the exact thing more roles need imo
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby Jerme » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:25 pm

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 2:38 pm

Updated for 2019

And I still think that letting it either Track or Watch is better than both for one ability
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that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby JacksonVirgo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:34 pm

What would be the investigator results? Would it fit in the LO or Tracker results?

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Spoiler: Latest Town Game: XX7 - Tracker/Detective/Sheriff/Lookout - Win
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:15 pm

boi

orangeandblack5 wrote:Investigative Results:
Investigator: Your target has an extremely keen eye for detail. They must be a Lookout, Osservatore, or a Witch.
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby JacksonVirgo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:46 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:boi

orangeandblack5 wrote:Investigative Results:
Investigator: Your target has an extremely keen eye for detail. They must be a Lookout, Osservatore, or a Witch.

Okay, I am blind.

On-site FM Record: 8-0-10
Spoiler: Latest Town Game: XX7 - Tracker/Detective/Sheriff/Lookout - Win
Latest Scum Game: 20H - Caporegime/Janitor - Loss
Latest Neutral Game: SFM72 - Failed Assassin - Win
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby JacksonVirgo » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:33 am

This is terrible, but it is possible lore for the role lol.

The Osservatore was once a peaceful townie in a loving relationship with Candy, not a single dark thought entered his mind. One year when Candy's birthday was close, he decided to organize a special surprise party for her when she got home. He followed her to her house so it all runs smoothly, but she never went home... He was distraught when he saw her visit the Town BodyGuard.

The following nights he kept tracking Candy, seeing exactly who she visited every night and without fail she visited every person in the Town. After witnessing the utter shock, he grew furious and his possessive side grew out, he started checking staking out every night to make sure nobody visited her and when she left the house, he followed her to make sure she wasn't visiting someone. He needed to see it all.

He was inevitably caught by the Town Lookout and was put onto trial, the Mayor decided that he must be banished from the Town, removed completely from the people he knew. The Godfather saw this as an opportunity and recruited them in the shadows, now he is back, and he's not happy about the wrongful banishment the Town has treated him with.

On-site FM Record: 8-0-10
Spoiler: Latest Town Game: XX7 - Tracker/Detective/Sheriff/Lookout - Win
Latest Scum Game: 20H - Caporegime/Janitor - Loss
Latest Neutral Game: SFM72 - Failed Assassin - Win
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby SensationalMeat » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:08 am

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby oddluck » Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:44 am

Mafia deserve to have something that can compete with Lookouts and Trackers. Faking Spy, Sheriff or Invest is made possible with the information available to you, i.e. You are the Mafia so you know who Mafia is visiting for your fake Spy claim. Everyone that isn't Mafia will probably be inno for a fake Sheriff claim. You know your teams roles and might even have a consig to fake investigator.

Faking Lookout or Tracker is a huge risk, Mafia team can corroborate and back each others stories up but they have no way of knowing who actually visited who at night and are easily shutdown by the real Lookouts/Trackers.

This role is great and would go a long way towards stopping TP/LO Jailor meta, I'm tired of getting Doc, BG, or Lookout and having to camp at the Jailors house everynight. That's three town roles instantly removed from freedom for the whole game, then there's N1 Escort and Spies visiting Jailor for confirmation.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Thu May 07, 2020 11:29 am

No bump button, relevant again to help kill TP/LO meta
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby OreCreeper » Sat May 09, 2020 12:07 pm

Shouldn't it be Lookout, Forger, Witch, or Osservatore? I think you missed Forger in the investigator result.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby BasicFourLife » Sat May 09, 2020 12:07 pm

who pinged me
I am kindly telling you to fuck off mate.

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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat May 09, 2020 4:59 pm

OreCreeper wrote:Shouldn't it be Lookout, Forger, Witch, or Osservatore? I think you missed Forger in the investigator result.

No
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby Brilliand » Sat May 09, 2020 5:57 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:Shouldn't it be Lookout, Forger, Witch, or Osservatore? I think you missed Forger in the investigator result.

No


Presumably you want a different investigator result for Forger, then. What result group should Forger be put into, in the event that Osservatore is added to the game?
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat May 09, 2020 6:13 pm

That depends on whether or not it is buffed to be able to read whispers
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby OreCreeper » Mon May 11, 2020 9:24 am

orangeandblack5 wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:Shouldn't it be Lookout, Forger, Witch, or Osservatore? I think you missed Forger in the investigator result.

No

Elaborate? Forger should be in there lol, I don't see why it doesn't fit.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Mon May 11, 2020 1:25 pm

Why put two Mafia in one result when Forger can't really fakeclaim Lookout so it just gets outed
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby OreCreeper » Mon May 11, 2020 5:21 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:Why put two Mafia in one result when Forger can't really fakeclaim Lookout so it just gets outed


To be fair, what CAN forger fake claim lol
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Re: Osservatore (Mafia Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Mon May 11, 2020 5:40 pm

Things that aren't Lookout

Tracker is a good one, I'd stick it there p sure
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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