Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

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Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:49 pm

Role Name: Anesthesiologist

Role Alignment:
Mafia Protective or Mafia Support

Attributes:
Will become a Mafioso if no Mafia Killing role exists

Abilities:
-Choose one person to anesthetize each night and anyone who visits the target will not be able to perform their ability except for those that kill
-Target must be different from the Mafia's target for killing (except once)
-Can only anesthetize the Mafioso's/GF's target once

Goal:
Kill anyone who will not submit to the mafia

Wins with:
-Mafia
-Survivor
-Witch

Must Kill:
-Town
-Vampires
-Arsonist
-Serial Killer
-Werewolf

Special Attributes:
-Unique
-Roleblock Immune

Investigative Results:
Your target smells like gas. They must be a Transporter, Arsonist, or Anesthesiologist
Your target works with medicine they must be a Doctor or Anesthesiologist
Your Target is a protector. They must be a BG, LO, Anes

Additional Information (comments): ALL OF THESE CAN BE CHANGED JUST LET ME KNOW
-IT WILL NOT RB THE TARGET
-You cannot anesthetize anyone who is roleblock immune (should roleblock immune people who visit the anesthetized person be blocked or no?)
-You cannot anesthetize a revealed mayor
-only non-killing roles will get blocked
-can anesthetize the Godfather's/Mafioso's target only once
-If a Bodyguard visits your target, the Bodyguard will kill you



Please let me know what you think I'll try to respond to questions ASAP. Feel free to be as critical as you want and tell me I'm stupid if you so please.

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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby alex1234321 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:53 pm

This has been suggested many times. I think that it is too close to the Escort, as both roleblock, just in different ways. Although this would probably have different strategies from the Escort, it is still too close to it. Also, if you think about it a different way, it is just a Doctor that prevents non-killers from visiting its target. In my opinion, it is too close to the Doctor and Escort to be added.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:57 pm

alex1234321 wrote:This has been suggested many times. I think that it is too close to the Escort, as both roleblock, just in different ways. Although this would probably have different strategies from the Escort, it is still too close to it. Also, if you think about it a different way, it is just a Doctor that prevents non-killers from visiting its target. In my opinion, it is too close to the Doctor and Escort to be added.



I know logically it would roleblock the target too but I thought that would be too overpowered and so it would only repel all visitors, the person can still perform their own ability. So this isn't supposed to be like an escort. I can see what you mean about the similarity to the Doc though. Do you have any suggestions of how that could be altered so it can be less similar to a doc?
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby alex1234321 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:01 pm

dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:This has been suggested many times. I think that it is too close to the Escort, as both roleblock, just in different ways. Although this would probably have different strategies from the Escort, it is still too close to it. Also, if you think about it a different way, it is just a Doctor that prevents non-killers from visiting its target. In my opinion, it is too close to the Doctor and Escort to be added.



I know logically it would roleblock the target too but I thought that would be too overpowered and so it would only repel all visitors, the person can still perform their own ability. So this isn't supposed to be like an escort. I can see what you mean about the similarity to the Doc though. Do you have any suggestions of how that could be altered so it can be less similar to a doc?

Maybe, it can be unable to roleblock killers, but it could do something else. My only idea is that it could roleblock its target, but that would just make it a swingier Escort.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:06 pm

alex1234321 wrote:
dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:This has been suggested many times. I think that it is too close to the Escort, as both roleblock, just in different ways. Although this would probably have different strategies from the Escort, it is still too close to it. Also, if you think about it a different way, it is just a Doctor that prevents non-killers from visiting its target. In my opinion, it is too close to the Doctor and Escort to be added.



I know logically it would roleblock the target too but I thought that would be too overpowered and so it would only repel all visitors, the person can still perform their own ability. So this isn't supposed to be like an escort. I can see what you mean about the similarity to the Doc though. Do you have any suggestions of how that could be altered so it can be less similar to a doc?

Maybe, it can be unable to roleblock killers, but it could do something else. My only idea is that it could roleblock its target, but that would just make it a swingier Escort.



I meant for it to be TP so unable to rb killers would only harm Town. HAVING SAID THAT. Could this role be changed to a Mafia Support Role such that it would harm TI's or a Neutral Role?
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby alex1234321 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:11 pm

dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:This has been suggested many times. I think that it is too close to the Escort, as both roleblock, just in different ways. Although this would probably have different strategies from the Escort, it is still too close to it. Also, if you think about it a different way, it is just a Doctor that prevents non-killers from visiting its target. In my opinion, it is too close to the Doctor and Escort to be added.



I know logically it would roleblock the target too but I thought that would be too overpowered and so it would only repel all visitors, the person can still perform their own ability. So this isn't supposed to be like an escort. I can see what you mean about the similarity to the Doc though. Do you have any suggestions of how that could be altered so it can be less similar to a doc?

Maybe, it can be unable to roleblock killers, but it could do something else. My only idea is that it could roleblock its target, but that would just make it a swingier Escort.



I meant for it to be TP so unable to rb killers would only harm Town. HAVING SAID THAT. Could this role be changed to a Mafia Support Role such that it would harm TI's or a Neutral Role?

Possibly. I think that a Mafia protective role would add to the game. A Mafia Doctor would not work, because most Mafia members die by lynching. I think that this role would work better than a Mafia Doctor because it protects Mafia members from investigative roles, along with other roles that can catch scum. The only problem with this is that it would render the Mafioso mostly pointless because it could just keep protecting the Godfather, so it can not be roleblocked. Maybe, this could even replace the Mafioso.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby ok98161 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:47 pm

alex1234321 wrote:
dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:This has been suggested many times. I think that it is too close to the Escort, as both roleblock, just in different ways. Although this would probably have different strategies from the Escort, it is still too close to it. Also, if you think about it a different way, it is just a Doctor that prevents non-killers from visiting its target. In my opinion, it is too close to the Doctor and Escort to be added.



I know logically it would roleblock the target too but I thought that would be too overpowered and so it would only repel all visitors, the person can still perform their own ability. So this isn't supposed to be like an escort. I can see what you mean about the similarity to the Doc though. Do you have any suggestions of how that could be altered so it can be less similar to a doc?

Maybe, it can be unable to roleblock killers, but it could do something else. My only idea is that it could roleblock its target, but that would just make it a swingier Escort.



I meant for it to be TP so unable to rb killers would only harm Town. HAVING SAID THAT. Could this role be changed to a Mafia Support Role such that it would harm TI's or a Neutral Role?

Possibly. I think that a Mafia protective role would add to the game. A Mafia Doctor would not work, because most Mafia members die by lynching. I think that this role would work better than a Mafia Doctor because it protects Mafia members from investigative roles, along with other roles that can catch scum. The only problem with this is that it would render the Mafioso mostly pointless because it could just keep protecting the Godfather, so it can not be roleblocked. Maybe, this could even replace the Mafioso.


I think it could make a good role for the mafia. Maybe they could use it in place of the disguiser(if they end up removing it). I also like that it buffs arso in it's current state, though if it became a mafia role it wouldn't buff arso, and it would nerf itself.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Town Protective)

Postby DrKiwi353 » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:58 pm

I actually do like this role as a mafia support or maybe even a new alignment of mafia protective since mafia doesn't really need to worry to much about dying at night and more about lynches, so rbing non killers could be an interesting form of protection, however I think framer will be getting a similar ability to unframe mafia members to appear as town. Still I feel this could work as a "Mafia Protective"
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:37 pm

Seems okay.

Investigator results are not...

Here's something for ya.

Your target smells like chemicals. They are either a Doctor, Anesthesiologist, or Serial Killer!

Gives Anes a better claim

Doesn't destroy arsonist like trans/arso does.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby LebronJames420 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:14 pm

Result:

Your target practices medicine. They must be a Doctor or Anesthesiologist

Does that work?
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:03 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:Seems okay.

Investigator results are not...

Here's something for ya.

Your target smells like chemicals. They are either a Doctor, Anesthesiologist, or Serial Killer!

Gives Anes a better claim

Doesn't destroy arsonist like trans/arso does.


Oh true... I forgot to update the Invest results after changing the alignment from TP to MP because it was originally supposed to help buff the arso
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:04 pm

LebronJames420 wrote:Result:

Your target practices medicine. They must be a Doctor or Anesthesiologist

Does that work?



That could work...Thanks :)
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby CAPTAINPHASMA123 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:04 pm

This role is like a Mafia Marshal, which I like it. This can be effective against powerful town roles. I have a question, if the Mafioso/Godfather visits the Anesthesiologist's target, will the Mafioso/Godfather will be roleblocked or not? If it cannot roleblock the Godfather/Mafioso, this role will be powerful in some situations like when having a revealed Mayor in game, the Jailor and the NK is dead. The Anesthesiologist can target the Mayor and Mafioso/Godfather kill the Mayor to avoid being seen by Lookouts, protected by Doctors, etc.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:11 pm

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:This role is like a Mafia Marshal, which I like it. This can be effective against powerful town roles. I have a question, if the Mafioso/Godfather visits the Anesthesiologist's target, will the Mafioso/Godfather will be roleblocked or not? If it cannot roleblock the Godfather/Mafioso, this role will be powerful in some situations like when having a revealed Mayor in game, the Jailor and the NK is dead. The Anesthesiologist can target the Mayor and Mafioso/Godfather kill the Mayor to avoid being seen by Lookouts, protected by Doctors, etc.



So I was debating between:
A) The anesthesiologist can block everyone EXCEPT killing roles
If it was this case I feel like it might be too OP to be able to anesthetize a revealed mayor... Also if a BG visits the same target that you anesthetize do you think the BG should be blocked or the Anesthesiologist and BG die as if it was a killing role
Only thing holding me back for this is if Anesthesiologist and Mafioso/GF attack same person every day then town would literally have no leads so I feel like it needs to be balanced somehow if this is the case

B) The anesthesiologist can block killing roles too
THis might end up harming maf more than helping though so I was leaning towards the first option
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:51 pm

dafish1 wrote:
CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:This role is like a Mafia Marshal, which I like it. This can be effective against powerful town roles. I have a question, if the Mafioso/Godfather visits the Anesthesiologist's target, will the Mafioso/Godfather will be roleblocked or not? If it cannot roleblock the Godfather/Mafioso, this role will be powerful in some situations like when having a revealed Mayor in game, the Jailor and the NK is dead. The Anesthesiologist can target the Mayor and Mafioso/Godfather kill the Mayor to avoid being seen by Lookouts, protected by Doctors, etc.



So I was debating between:
A) The anesthesiologist can block everyone EXCEPT killing roles
If it was this case I feel like it might be too OP to be able to anesthetize a revealed mayor... Also if a BG visits the same target that you anesthetize do you think the BG should be blocked or the Anesthesiologist and BG die as if it was a killing role
Only thing holding me back for this is if Anesthesiologist and Mafioso/GF attack same person every day then town would literally have no leads so I feel like it needs to be balanced somehow if this is the case

B) The anesthesiologist can block killing roles too
THis might end up harming maf more than helping though so I was leaning towards the first option

I think that making it unable to block killing roles, because option B harms the Mafia more than it helps it. In order to fix the problem with blocking the Mafioso/Godfather, it should not be able to block the Godfather/Mafioso's target.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:57 pm

alex1234321 wrote:
dafish1 wrote:
CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:This role is like a Mafia Marshal, which I like it. This can be effective against powerful town roles. I have a question, if the Mafioso/Godfather visits the Anesthesiologist's target, will the Mafioso/Godfather will be roleblocked or not? If it cannot roleblock the Godfather/Mafioso, this role will be powerful in some situations like when having a revealed Mayor in game, the Jailor and the NK is dead. The Anesthesiologist can target the Mayor and Mafioso/Godfather kill the Mayor to avoid being seen by Lookouts, protected by Doctors, etc.



So I was debating between:
A) The anesthesiologist can block everyone EXCEPT killing roles
If it was this case I feel like it might be too OP to be able to anesthetize a revealed mayor... Also if a BG visits the same target that you anesthetize do you think the BG should be blocked or the Anesthesiologist and BG die as if it was a killing role
Only thing holding me back for this is if Anesthesiologist and Mafioso/GF attack same person every day then town would literally have no leads so I feel like it needs to be balanced somehow if this is the case

B) The anesthesiologist can block killing roles too
THis might end up harming maf more than helping though so I was leaning towards the first option

I think that making it unable to block killing roles, because option B harms the Mafia more than it helps it. In order to fix the problem with blocking the Mafioso/Godfather, it should not be able to block the Godfather/Mafioso's target.


I feel like if it cant block the same target as killed, it removes a lot of the usefulness...Having said that, it would be OP if it could do it every night...
So these are the ideas I got:
Can anesthetize the gf/mafiosos target 3 times only
Can anesthetize the Maf's target 1 time and can anesthetize other people every other night
Can anesthetize anyone except the Maf's target
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby alex1234321 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:17 pm

dafish1 wrote:
alex1234321 wrote:
dafish1 wrote:
CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:This role is like a Mafia Marshal, which I like it. This can be effective against powerful town roles. I have a question, if the Mafioso/Godfather visits the Anesthesiologist's target, will the Mafioso/Godfather will be roleblocked or not? If it cannot roleblock the Godfather/Mafioso, this role will be powerful in some situations like when having a revealed Mayor in game, the Jailor and the NK is dead. The Anesthesiologist can target the Mayor and Mafioso/Godfather kill the Mayor to avoid being seen by Lookouts, protected by Doctors, etc.



So I was debating between:
A) The anesthesiologist can block everyone EXCEPT killing roles
If it was this case I feel like it might be too OP to be able to anesthetize a revealed mayor... Also if a BG visits the same target that you anesthetize do you think the BG should be blocked or the Anesthesiologist and BG die as if it was a killing role
Only thing holding me back for this is if Anesthesiologist and Mafioso/GF attack same person every day then town would literally have no leads so I feel like it needs to be balanced somehow if this is the case

B) The anesthesiologist can block killing roles too
THis might end up harming maf more than helping though so I was leaning towards the first option

I think that making it unable to block killing roles, because option B harms the Mafia more than it helps it. In order to fix the problem with blocking the Mafioso/Godfather, it should not be able to block the Godfather/Mafioso's target.


I feel like if it cant block the same target as killed, it removes a lot of the usefulness...Having said that, it would be OP if it could do it every night...
So these are the ideas I got:
Can anesthetize the gf/mafiosos target 3 times only
Can anesthetize the Maf's target 1 time and can anesthetize other people every other night
Can anesthetize anyone except the Maf's target

I think that it should not be able to anesthetize the Godfather/Mafioso's target, but it should be able to anesthetize anyone else with unlimited uses.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:28 pm

Sorry, but both results are bad.

It should be Doctor, Anesthesiologist, Serial Killer

Just because NKs should get the easy protective claim.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:37 pm

BPsycho2 wrote:Sorry, but both results are bad.

It should be Doctor, Anesthesiologist, Serial Killer

Just because NKs should get the easy protective claim.

how does it protect NK ... Anesthesiologist is Maf?
can you let me know what you think of the role itself?
Would you prefer "Your target is covered in blood they must be a Doctor, Anesthesiologist, or SK?"
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby BPsycho2 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:43 pm

The lore should be smells like chemicals, but yes.

They should both get the Doctor claim.

Also, the role is okay.

You should be able to anesthetize anyone, and everyone.

And yes, it should not block the Mafia Killer>

Also, the Bodyguard shouldnt kill you because you're not a killer.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby alex1234321 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:20 am

BPsycho2 wrote:Sorry, but both results are bad.

It should be Doctor, Anesthesiologist, Serial Killer

Just because NKs should get the easy protective claim.

Where would Vampire go? I agree that Anesthesiologist should be able to claim a protective role, but would Vampire still be in that result? Here are my two suggestions:

Your target smells like chemicals. They must be a Doctor, Serial Killer, Vampire, or Anesthesiologist.
This result seems a bit too scum sided, since three of the four people in it are evil.

Your target guards people. They must be a Bodyguard or Anesthesiologist.
This one is more balanced, taking the hard to prove Bodyguard out of the confirmed Town result, and giving the Anesthesiologist a decent claim. Its lore is too close to the protector result's, but balance>lore.
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:11 am

alex1234321 wrote:
BPsycho2 wrote:Sorry, but both results are bad.

It should be Doctor, Anesthesiologist, Serial Killer

Just because NKs should get the easy protective claim.

Where would Vampire go? I agree that Anesthesiologist should be able to claim a protective role, but would Vampire still be in that result? Here are my two suggestions:

Your target smells like chemicals. They must be a Doctor, Serial Killer, Vampire, or Anesthesiologist.
This result seems a bit too scum sided, since three of the four people in it are evil.

Your target guards people. They must be a Bodyguard or Anesthesiologist.
This one is more balanced, taking the hard to prove Bodyguard out of the confirmed Town result, and giving the Anesthesiologist a decent claim. Its lore is too close to the protector result's, but balance>lore.


I like your BG idea...I'll make a poll with all of the suggestions to see which people like (:
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby CAPTAINPHASMA123 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:24 am

I want to include an option which is "Your target is a protector. They must be a Bodyguard, Lookout, Anesthesiologist!"
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby dafish1 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:06 am

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:I want to include an option which is "Your target is a protector. They must be a Bodyguard, Lookout, Anesthesiologist!"


added it (:
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Re: Anesthesiologist (Mafia Protective)

Postby CAPTAINPHASMA123 » Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:09 am

dafish1 wrote:
CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:I want to include an option which is "Your target is a protector. They must be a Bodyguard, Lookout, Anesthesiologist!"


added it (:

Now it's better :D

This would also make the Anesthesiologist have a role claim when investigated by the Investigator.
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