Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

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Q1: Do you like the Role and Concept?(Please give reasons)
5
4%
I like the Role and the Concept
14
13%
I like the Role, not the Concept
0
No votes
I like the Concept, not the Role
5
4%
I dislike the Role and the Concept
3
3%
I am Indifferent
1
1%
Q2: Would you like to see this role in the game?
5
4%
Yes
18
16%
No(Please give reasons)
4
4%
Indifferent
2
2%
Q3: Night Immunity or Autovest?
5
4%
Night Immunity
9
8%
Autovest
8
7%
Neither
6
5%
Q4: Now many people should the tax Collector visit per night?
7
6%
One
10
9%
Two
10
9%
 
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Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 9:35 am

Well, Patch 1.5 is coming in about a month, and in the Announcement Post shapesifter stated new roles would be added
So I decided to revive on of my old role ideas, but this time flesh it out a bit more and give it a better name
Here is the link to the original role
So, without further ado, here it is
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Name: Tax Collector

Alignment: Neutral(Benign)

Attributes:
If there is ever a point where you have received money from all living players, you will leave the Town(i.e. die, but with flavour of leaving the Town)

Abilities:
You may collect money from one person(or two people) each night
Once you have collected someone's money, you will not be able to target them again

Goal:
You win if, at the end of the game, you have collected money from every living player(You do not need to collect from yourself and you do not need to Survive)

Wins with:
Everyone, if their win condition has been met, if not, they win by being the only person left alive
Explanation under the Spoiler
Spoiler: Before victory: Wins only with itself. Not even survivors, witches, exes, amnes, or OTHER TAX COLLECTORS.
Only wins with itself. Must kill EVERYONE ELSE.

Ex: IF only a Tax Collector and (UNTAXED) Witch remain, the Witch wins and the Collector loses.

Ex2: IF only a tax collector and a (UNTAXED) Jester remain, the game ends in a draw.

Ex3: IF every single player dies, even the tax collector, the tax collector wins.

Ex4: IF two untaxed tax collectors remain: the game ends in a draw.

If the Tax Collector wins, even by being the last player alive, they DO NOT steal the win from any other roles that have won already. (Jester, Executioner, etc)

After victory: Wins with everyone.


Special Attributes:
You are Night Immune(Debatable, could be replaced with an Autovest)

Investigative Results:
Sheriff: Your target is Not Suspicious
Investigator: (Help Needed Please)
Consigliere: Your target collects money from others, they must be a Tax Collector

Additional Information (comments): See top of post

Achievements:
Spoiler: Taxman Cometh: Win 1 game as a Tax Collector
Job's done: Win 5 games as a Tax Collector
Suit and Tie: Win 10 games as a Tax Collector
IRS: Win 25 games as a Tax Collector
Bury me with my money: Win a game after dying
Insurance Fire: Win a game with an Arsonist
Speeding Fines: Collect money from a Transporter
Cold Hard Cash: Win by collecting from only Scum roles
Money makes the World go 'round: Win by collecting from only Town roles
Bankruptcy: Collect money from yourself
Eternal Revenue Service: Be the last man standing
Remember to pay your taxes: Win alone with an Amnesiac who didn't remember a role
You're not special: Win alone with a Witch
That wasn't so hard: Win alone with a Survivor
Blood Money: Win with the Vampires
Aristocracy: Win with the Mafia
Dirty Dollars: Win with Serial Killer(s)
Monstrous Moolah: Win with the Werewolf
No excuses: Win alone with a Jester (who did not win)
Almost don't want it: Win alone with a Jester who was lynched
I'll ignore that for a little extra: Win alone with an Executioner
Just Protocol: Win alone with a Doctor


Skin/Solo Win Screen idea:
Spoiler: The skin would be a man(or woman(preferably both to keep all roles gender neutral)) holding a briefcase, looking a bit like Montgomery Moneybags, but clean shaven and wearing a Black/Dark Grey suit instead of a light blue one
The solo-win screen icon would be an open briefcase filled with money, like that of the Auditor from SC2 Mafia
Last edited by JazzMusicStops on Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:41 am, edited 7 times in total.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby simabean » Sun May 08, 2016 9:38 am

That seems hard to win. You need to get the people who won't die.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 9:38 am

Poll reset because idea
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby arearug » Sun May 08, 2016 9:55 am

Man I would lynch anyone who claimed this so hard they'd get lynched day one in their next game. Just saying.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby SpellChecker » Sun May 08, 2016 9:57 am

simabean wrote:That seems hard to win. You need to get the people who won't die.


Agreed, this seems hard to win with.
  
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun May 08, 2016 9:58 am

The Missionary niche has been suggested before, and it's fun to toy around with.

I give you props on the fact that it can't be a kingmaker, but at the same time I feel like it's a little too easy to win with. (._. )

I'll need to think more about this.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 11:05 am

arearug wrote:Man I would lynch anyone who claimed this so hard they'd get lynched day one in their next game. Just saying.

Maybe I could make it notify, something like, "Someone collected your Taxes" or similar
So people can say "Hey, [tax Collector claimer], who did you visit last night?"
and the TC could say "I visited [insert here]"
and [insert here] could say "Yep, I was visited"
and then Best FriendsTM
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun May 08, 2016 11:08 am

JammySplodge wrote:
arearug wrote:Man I would lynch anyone who claimed this so hard they'd get lynched day one in their next game. Just saying.

Maybe I could make it notify, something like, "Someone collected your Taxes" or similar
So people can say "Hey, [tax Collector claimer], who did you visit last night?"
and the TC could say "I visited [insert here]"
and [insert here] could say "Yep, I was visited"
and then Best FriendsTM

I hope this is a joke.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 11:08 am

Kirize12 wrote:
JammySplodge wrote:
arearug wrote:Man I would lynch anyone who claimed this so hard they'd get lynched day one in their next game. Just saying.

Maybe I could make it notify, something like, "Someone collected your Taxes" or similar
So people can say "Hey, [tax Collector claimer], who did you visit last night?"
and the TC could say "I visited [insert here]"
and [insert here] could say "Yep, I was visited"
and then Best FriendsTM

I hope this is a joke.

I'll take that as a No, then
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun May 08, 2016 11:09 am

NB's are not meant to be confirmable.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 11:10 am

Kirize12 wrote:NB's are not meant to be confirmable.

Okay, fair point
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 11:40 am

Update: Added some achievement ideas, Names and Suggestions always accepted
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby RetralMega » Sun May 08, 2016 11:49 am

... I don't see the point.
No support.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 12:01 pm

RetralMega wrote:... I don't see the point.
No support.

1. It's a NB that's truly Neutral
2. It requires strategy of knowing who will die and who won't
3. It's not a kingmaker, like Survivor
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 12:36 pm

I have some acheivement ideas but I don't know what the criteria should be
Suggestions:
Cold Hard Cash
Money makes the World go 'round
Bankruptcy
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby Kirize12 » Sun May 08, 2016 12:41 pm

JammySplodge wrote:I have some acheivement ideas but I don't know what the criteria should be
Suggestions:
Cold Hard Cash
Money makes the World go 'round
Bankruptcy

Cold Hard Cash - Visit only scum
Money makes the World go 'round - Visit only town
Bankruptcy - Win the game by only visiting three people

Also, another one:
Eternal Revenue Service - Be the last man standing.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Sun May 08, 2016 12:41 pm

Kirize12 wrote:
JammySplodge wrote:I have some acheivement ideas but I don't know what the criteria should be
Suggestions:
Cold Hard Cash
Money makes the World go 'round
Bankruptcy

Cold Hard Cash - Visit only scum
Money makes the World go 'round - Visit only town
Bankruptcy - Win the game by only visiting three people

Also, another one:
Eternal Revenue Service - Be the last man standing.

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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Mon May 09, 2016 1:50 am

Any ideas for investigator results
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby Jerme » Mon May 09, 2016 2:05 am

If we go for Oranges Investigation results, I suggest: Your target stalks people. They must be a Lookout, Forger, Amnesiac, or Tax collector.
Alternatively you could go for gathers information.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby dagreenrabbit » Mon May 09, 2016 8:39 am

will get the role 10/10
trolling ftw XD
no srsly this role is pretty fun to play
like exe or jest
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby CAPTAINPHASMA123 » Tue May 10, 2016 4:47 am

How about the investigation results would be:




Your target takes charge. They could be a Mayor, Godfather, Vampire Hunter or a Tax Collector.
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby dagreenrabbit » Tue May 10, 2016 8:17 am

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:How about the investigation results would be:




Your target takes charge. They could be a Mayor, Godfather, Vampire Hunter or a Tax Collector.

why i didn't get that before
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Tue May 10, 2016 8:46 am

CAPTAINPHASMA123 wrote:How about the investigation results would be:




Your target takes charge. They could be a Mayor, Godfather, Vampire Hunter or a Tax Collector.

The investigator results are being changed, so that wouldn't work
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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby Jerme » Tue May 10, 2016 9:57 am

Jerme wrote:If we go for Oranges Investigation results, I suggest: Your target stalks people. They must be a Lookout, Forger, Amnesiac, or Tax collector.
Alternatively you could go for gathers information.
What do you think?

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Re: Tax Collector(Neutral Benign)

Postby JazzMusicStops » Tue May 10, 2016 10:00 am

Jerme wrote:
Jerme wrote:If we go for Oranges Investigation results, I suggest: Your target stalks people. They must be a Lookout, Forger, Amnesiac, or Tax collector.
Alternatively you could go for gathers information.
What do you think?

Do not ignore my post Jammy :c

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