Musician (Mafia Support)

[oliy]

♪ Musician ♪
Alignment: Mafia Support
Ability: -Remove all night feedback from someone and their visitors
Attributes:
-Using the moon button at night, you may choose to remove the discussion phase from the town the next day
-You can only serenade the town twice in a game
Special Attributes:
-None

Investigative Results:
Investigator - no
Consigliere - Your target plays music for the town. They must be a Musician.
Sheriff - Your target is a Member of the Mafia!

Night Action: Removal of feedback and moon button
Day Action: N/A

Notifications:
"Do you hear that beautiful tune? Wait, where has the time gone! It's voting time already!" - Serenading

Notes:
None.

[FlightlessPigeon]

This is basically having a bm'er for the whole town. Also that you choose to do it in the day is op.

[cmitc1]

I can see this being used late game I think.......

[oliy]

I haven't gotten much feedback, and I feel pretty confident in this role. Anything I should change? Do you like it or not, and why?

[oliy]

I have mixed feelings about this role... but in the end, you are forcing rapid mode with a mafia role.
they can still whisper while deaths are announce, so you cant really counter a retri, a medium or any mayor games.
you cant make the music last 30 seconds or more because you are basically blocking the vote phase if you activate the ability on that moment.
and even if you do, the one who was going to get voted is going to be raped by the vig or jailor in the night for obvious reasons.

Mayor reveals midday, so you can counter that.
Medium? How? What?
Unless there's a confirmed town member to talk to or something to ask, that beginning of a day is pretty useless.
You can frame people, wasting a jailor 's execution or vigilante's shot.

[Kirize12]

Yeah, this could be a good asset, and seems less like a Blacmailer and more like a unique role with the new changes. Just make sure you specify it can't target Mafia members. But I feel like it should be a day halver instead.

/support

[oliy]

Why not Mafia members tho ;_;
That would be somewhat of an asset, maybe immune GF or helping Investigatives, and instead of rolelist WIFOM you have logical WIFOM where Invesitgatives with no feedback decide between targeting them, targeting a Mafia, or targeting a town.

[Ralozey]

This role has been accepted into the Testing Grounds! If you'd like to see this role in action just visit our forum or PM me.

[RetralMega]

So it deceives anyone who visits for information and also blackmails a whole town until voting time.
Too OP.

[oliy]

So it deceives anyone who visits for information and also blackmails a whole town until voting time.
Too OP.

It's freaking confirmable by many roles, and the ones that aren't confirmed generally help balance of the game slightly in favor towards scum. The only ones it truly deceives are Doctors (which should have feedback removed), killers hitting immune roles (which either allows for realization+fakeclaim or confusion, but this scenario rarely happens anyways :\), and lookouts (which can die in a fire).
Tell me this: Is there really much going on in that 1/2 of the day? People claim, there are CCs, a bit of recovery, not much time at all. If the playerbase somehow ends up playing better, then yes, this is effective, but reads made overnight and claims can still be made, there's just a removal of some discussion, which is the intent of this role.

[BS4125]

In the Investigator result needs a good Town claim, if this was in the game it would be the most confirmable Town member because it happens to everyone and nothing else can excuse it.

Also you said it yourself above, nothing really happens during the first 1/2 of the day, so why risk a chance to expose yourself for just cutting away a discussion about an unrelated topic. If I was the Musician I would use the ability right until the end, if I needed to, but otherwise I would use my ability at all

[oliy]

Screw invest results, they're subject to change, there are many lists, etc. I don't do anything with them.

You are not revealing yourself, and there are still scenarios where you are affective as a role, and the town ends on an incomplete note, such as debating the quality over two ccs, especially in MyLo. There are lots of day scenarios its affective, but not OP.

[Soulshade55r]

I like this but I feel like this should have 3 uses instead, 2 is limited and this role does have to expose the fact it's in game.

[Mystoc]

I like this but I feel like this should have 3 uses instead, 2 is limited and this role does have to expose the fact it's in game.

OP has not talked in this thread in almost a year don't necro bump threads i doubt OP is online

[ninjadog101]

Soul you are necrobumping so much stuff on purpose aren't you. Isn't there a rule against this kinda stuff?

[Soulshade55r]

What even is a necrobumb?

Added
If your talking about me "bumping" the page on purpose, No I just wanted to comment on this role, I didn't even know it was a bad thing to post on a older topic...

[BS4125]

A necrobumb is when a user "resurrects" a dead topic that hasn't been replied by for a month or more, alike this topic
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