Proper Sheriff Rework

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Proper Sheriff Rework

Postby Obituary » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:16 am

Summary:
Sheriff is meant to be a useful role in the game of Mafia whose primary task is to find people who are evil. In Town of Salem, anyone can just blantantly claim Sheriff without any consequences. Sheriff should be an important role that the Mafia actually want to waste a night killing. What I suggest is no more deception immunity. The Sheriff should be able to find anyone who is evil. Disguiser should be reworked to work with this.

Role Name: Sheriff


Role Alignment: Town Investigative


Abilities: Interrogate one person each night for their alignment


Attributes:
Your interrogation ignores detection immunity


Additional Information:

-Your target is a member of the Mafia
-Your target is apart of a Coven
-Your target is a citizen of the Town
-Your target has no alignment (Neutrals)
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Re: Proper Sheriff Rework

Postby EtherealEnder » Thu Oct 14, 2021 11:41 am

this will end up being a bit busted. with no detection immune roles, anyone that shows up as an evil alignment will end up being confirmed evil. changing disg removes a large part of its usefulness. especially in ranked, sheriff would just end up becoming op. at least now, framers can cast doubt on sus ppl.

and yeah anyone can claim sheriff - i think thats the point? its a very easily fakeclaimable role, which evils need so that they can call sheriff claims liars.
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Re: Proper Sheriff Rework

Postby Cabohhh » Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:08 pm

Obituary wrote:Summary:
Sheriff is meant to be a useful role in the game of Mafia whose primary task is to find people who are evil. In Town of Salem, anyone can just blantantly claim Sheriff without any consequences. Sheriff should be an important role that the Mafia actually want to waste a night killing. What I suggest is no more deception immunity. The Sheriff should be able to find anyone who is evil. Disguiser should be reworked to work with this.

Role Name: Sheriff


Role Alignment: Town Investigative


Abilities: Interrogate one person each night for their alignment


Attributes:
Your interrogation ignores detection immunity


Additional Information:

-Your target is a member of the Mafia
-Your target is apart of a Coven
-Your target is a citizen of the Town
-Your target has no alignment (Neutrals)
-


so, old sheriff then

also, there's no point in having detection immunity if you're piercing it
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Re: Proper Sheriff Rework

Postby EtherealEnder » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:07 pm

Cabohhh wrote:
Obituary wrote:Summary:
Sheriff is meant to be a useful role in the game of Mafia whose primary task is to find people who are evil. In Town of Salem, anyone can just blantantly claim Sheriff without any consequences. Sheriff should be an important role that the Mafia actually want to waste a night killing. What I suggest is no more deception immunity. The Sheriff should be able to find anyone who is evil. Disguiser should be reworked to work with this.

Role Name: Sheriff


Role Alignment: Town Investigative


Abilities: Interrogate one person each night for their alignment


Attributes:
Your interrogation ignores detection immunity


Additional Information:

-Your target is a member of the Mafia
-Your target is apart of a Coven
-Your target is a citizen of the Town
-Your target has no alignment (Neutrals)
-


so, old sheriff then

also, there's no point in having detection immunity if you're piercing it


oh yeah i forgot about old sheriff LMFAO
yeah nah old sheriff got reworked for a reason
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Re: Proper Sheriff Rework

Postby alex1234321 » Sat Oct 16, 2021 1:43 pm

Detective immunity shouldn’t be a thing except maybe for Godfather. NKs and NEs rarely win but should be buffed in ways that don’t rely on one role and their win rates should be accounted for in the Elo calculation when applicable.

That being said, finding the specific alignment of an evil player isn’t too important for Sheriff but prevents NKs from claiming framed, so I don’t think that should be changed. I would support something where sheriff sees Town/not Town, which would also give evils an NB claim in modes where they spawn
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