superdog551 wrote:Agent is hardly an original idea by either of you. The idea of a mafia LO/Tracker combo has been suggested so many times in the past.
I think orangeandblack5's Osservatore was the first to show up in this subforum (back in 2016).
superdog551 wrote:Agent is hardly an original idea by either of you. The idea of a mafia LO/Tracker combo has been suggested so many times in the past.
Bringing up that Medium cannot be roleblocked is completely inrelavent; Medium cannot be roleblocked because they have no active abillites. You're acting like these no counters against this. I did mention that roles with night time defence cannot be audited and that Bodyguards can prevent an Audit. Netural Evil roles need to be more powerful then Mafia roles as NEs need to stand on their own
joaodasalmas wrote:Abilities: You can reveal yourself as the King Potato, and now you can't be voted.
MarsGodofWar wrote:Medium cannot be roleblocked because they have NO ACTIVE ABILLTIES. So yes it is completely irrelevant. This is a completely different concept from a Consort and has minimal uses. Stop making it out that it would be game breaking for a Medium to get audited. Also, it's not way too powerful. If it was Mafia then yes. But Netural roles need to be useful on their own. Auditor will reduce the chance of important roles revealing early on if there is a possibly Auditor in the game.
joaodasalmas wrote:Abilities: You can reveal yourself as the King Potato, and now you can't be voted.
superdog551 wrote:Edit: Not that it really matters, this role is extremely overpowered anyway. It is a scum sided super-escort. It has three permanent roleblocks that go through roleblock immunity and can even roleblock roles that typically don't have the ability to be rbd like a medium. How did you decided that this role is one of the most balanced out there?
superdog551 wrote:Escort/Transporter/Retri included even though they typically can't be stopped by other means.
superdog551 wrote:MarsGodofWar wrote:Medium cannot be roleblocked because they have NO ACTIVE ABILLTIES. So yes it is completely irrelevant. This is a completely different concept from a Consort and has minimal uses. Stop making it out that it would be game breaking for a Medium to get audited. Also, it's not way too powerful. If it was Mafia then yes. But Netural roles need to be useful on their own. Auditor will reduce the chance of important roles revealing early on if there is a possibly Auditor in the game.
You aren't understanding. It is "roleblocked" because it wouldn't be able to talk to the dead anymore. If you're saying that the Auditor wouldn't take this ability away from the medium then you should edit the original post, because it says under the Auditor's abilities: -Your target will lose all their role abilities and attributes and the Medium's abilities and attributes are: Abilities-When dead speak to a living person at night. Attributes-You will speak to the dead anonymously each night you are alive. Sounds like it can "roleblock" a medium to me.
My point is not that it is OP because it can disable a medium, it's that it can cripple ANY town role. Escort/Transporter/Retri included even though they typically can't be stopped by other means. Imagine being in a town where three people suddenly become citizens. Town can lose all of its TPs or Tis and now nobody can be protected and no mafia can be discovered. BG loses its ability and then the jailor can no longer do their ability. It absolutely cripples the town. It is too powerful. It is not fun to play against.
alex1234321 wrote:Why can't we just remove Jailor from Ranked? As long as there are confirmable Townies (like your Marshall idea), there will always be a meta. The only way to fully get rid of Jailor meta is to get rid of Jailor.
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