Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby Cavespider17 » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:13 am

Thinking about resubmitting this one - Anyone got any comments or edits worth noting before I do?
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby Obituary » Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:03 am

OP should be a Netural Evil role
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby Cavespider17 » Thu Nov 04, 2021 10:00 pm

Obituary wrote:OP should be a Netural Evil role

How is it OP?
You have to have trial before you can use your most powerful ability. Even then you are outed to the evils. You can’t self confirm so you become effectively exposed.
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby mustiboi999 » Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:05 pm

We’re getting something like this in BMG’s new game so I wouldn’t put it past them to add a role like this in the near future to the main game
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby Cavespider17 » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:08 pm

mustiboi999 wrote:We’re getting something like this in BMG’s new game so I wouldn’t put it past them to add a role like this in the near future to the main game

Perhaps. I wrote this role last year.
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby KoroneInugami » Wed Dec 15, 2021 8:56 pm

I think the "blackmail immunity" should also be for the Executioner, being BMed as an executioner is absolutely shitty, and can actually make more exe plays, as well as helping Mafia in ranked (current).
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby Cavespider17 » Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:17 am

Updated Role in Accordance to Fixes Recommeded by the Balancers of TG.
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby Deadly162 » Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:03 pm

This is a cool concept. I like it.
One thing I'd be interested in is its abilites as town traitor...
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby WaveAqualei » Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:26 pm

Deadly162 wrote:This is a cool concept. I like it.
One thing I'd be interested in is its abilites as town traitor...

That's a good point, actually.
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:07 pm

Bumping because if you removed the Blackmail immunity this would be a dope new role
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby WaveAqualei » Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:55 pm

orangeandblack5 wrote:Bumping because if you removed the Blackmail immunity this would be a dope new role

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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby cob709 » Thu Oct 06, 2022 11:14 am

Cavespider17 wrote:Abilities:
Pardon
- Choose one player Pardon at night.
- That Player, even if Guiltied, will not be lynched the next day.
- You have 3 Pardons.

Objection
- You may object to a vote outcome, and flip the result.


The objection ability should be removed, players can hardly tell if someone is gonna get acquitted.
I like the pardon ability. It can be used to stop mislynches and isn't confirmable. This would work well as a mayor rework

orangeandblack5 wrote:Bumping because if you removed the Blackmail immunity this would be a dope new role

yes
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby orangeandblack5 » Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:29 pm

I actually think Objection is fine for that particular reason because it's high-risk, high-reward and that's kinda awesome whereas the 3 pardons are not the strongest thing ever (I might even say to give it infinite because there's not a massive difference between the two options and if anything infinite is probably weaker on average for a casual player)

I'm more concerned about it from the point of view of being instantly-confirmable which could in some cases be unideal, but the pardon ability already is so whatever
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SwampRabbit wrote:your idea is that no town should ever be able to confirm themselves as town.

that is the dumbest idea I think I have heard.

ElderSivart wrote:I'm confused as to why BMG made a UI for Pirate and not Hypnotist.

Sarah Thorpe wrote:Role Ideas is great for masochists.
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Re: Role Idea - Judge (Town Support)

Postby MysticMismagius » Sat Oct 08, 2022 5:59 pm

My first thought is that this would be an interesting rework for Mayor.

- It's a far more interesting way to influence the game's lynching system than "haha click button, 3 votes go brrrrr"
- Despite influencing the lynching system, this role wouldn't be able to somehow singlehandedly put an evil on the stand (I've always found that weird, in a 1v1 there is is no longer any reason to maintain the air of civility. FFS, just shoot the Mayor
- It doesn't get instantly roflstomped by Vampires (Even if revealed Mayor could whisper, losing the extra votes still makes it super obvious when a Mayor has been vamped)
- The fact that it is super easy to confirm wouldn't be a problem if it was a Mayor rework because Mayor is already instantly confirmable anyways
- It is already mutually exclusive with Mayor, which isn't an interaction any other role has

All that would need to change is that Objecting would reveal your role to everyone and not just evils (and the blackmail thing which I think is kinda dumb in general)
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