Generalist - Mafia (Support)

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Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby RiceHatMan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:00 pm

Role Name:
Generalist

Role Alignment:
Mafia (Support)

Abilities:
- During the day, you may choose one of your Mafia members to specialize as

Attributes:
- During the following night, you will gain your target's night ability and all attributes associated with it. This will last only one night. You will not gain any other attributes, such as Basic defense from the Godfather
- If you specialize as a Godfather or Mafioso when there is still a living Mafioso or Godfather respectively, you will order the Mafioso to attack or follow the Godfather's orders respectively
- You may specialize as dead Mafia members
- You may not specialize as a living Unique Mafia member, nor if there is another one living through promotion
- Your specialization will be negated by a Jailor's jail (it doesn't matter, either that or the ability you inherited)

Notifications:
- You will receive "You specialized as one of your fellow Mafia!" at the start of the night if you your day ability was successful
- You will receive "You have decided to specialize as [target] tonight" when you select your target

Goal:
Kill anyone that will not submit to the Mafia.

Win Conditions:
You must kill Town
You must kill Serial Killers
You must kill Arsonists
You must kill Werewolves
You must kill Vampires
You win with Survivors
You win with Witches
You may spare anyone else

Special Attributes:
- Attack: None
- Defense: None
- Mafia Chat
- If there are no kill-capable Mafia roles left you will become a Mafioso
- Unique role

Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious!
Investigator - Your target could be a Sheriff, Executioner, Werewolf, Poisoner, or Generalist.
Consigliere - Your target specializes as different Mafia members. They must be a Generalist.

Achievements:
General worker - Win 1 game as a Generalist
Multi-Occupation - Win 5 games as a Generalist
Competent Slasher - Win 10 games as a Generalist
Specialistic Generalist- Win 25 games as a Generalist
Supply Boss - Specialize as a Godfather two times in a row
Backup Makeup - Specialize as a Consort two times in a row

Additional Information:
You will still gain role block immunity if you specialize as a Consort, because that attribute is tied to the night ability through priority. You may specialize as a living Unique Mafia role if they were lynched during the same day. I made this role mostly because this role can save you if your only Mafia (Killing) is role blocked or jailed. This role it Unique because they one wouldn't be able to specialize as another Generalist.
By the way, if anyone is wondering about the name, there are people called "specializing generalists" who specialize in one field but also have a broad understanding of many others. I guess I could change the name, but just "Generalist" sounds better.

Lore:
TBD
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby cob709 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:17 pm

This is literally a weaker Mafia-Aligned 3-shot Retributionist

Sorry,
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby RiceHatMan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 2:48 pm

cob709 wrote:This is literally a weaker Mafia-Aligned 3-shot Retributionist

Sorry,
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I don't know where Retributionist came in, but okay. Is it over or under-powered? You really didn't say anything here, so...
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby JacksonVirgo » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:20 pm

This is similar to Forum Mafia's Mafioso. Instead it's 3-shot instead of can only target one player once.
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby cob709 » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:35 pm

Harryyoshi wrote:
cob709 wrote:This is literally a weaker Mafia-Aligned 3-shot Retributionist

Sorry,
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I don't know where Retributionist came in, but okay. Is it over or under-powered? You really didn't say anything here, so...

it is a copy of retributionist, but re-aligned with mafia, only has 3 uses, and also has the perform the action themselves.

It's underpowered.
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby RiceHatMan » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:27 pm

cob709 wrote:it is a copy of retributionist, but re-aligned with mafia, only has 3 uses, and also has the perform the action themselves.

It's underpowered.

I removed the 3 uses. Also, you can specialize as a living Mafia member, just saying, I really don't know where Retributionist came in. By the way, is this really that under-powered? You can use the ability of the other RM, and when one of your MK dies, you can fill in their place. I don't really see why this is under-powered.
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby RiceHatMan » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:37 am

555jacob555 wrote:in all modes except custom/rapid/all any either the existence of GF & Mafioso is confirmed or this role would not be able to occur

meaning that in modes that aren't custom/rapid/all any the roll is either no utility (if 3 mafia, like in traitor or classic) or very low utility (if 4 mafia since only max 1 mafia member is a viable choice to specialise as)

for this role to ever be functional you need to give it decent utility when specialising as GF or Mafioso


Well, I guess this role is catered toward ranked, so I don't know if this role should be able to specialize as the TT. This role can't be in Classic. This role would have a higher utility late game, because you could specialize as a MK if you think your last MK will be jailed or role blocked. This is good because most RM are bad late game, with the exception of Consort, and this role could specialize as the other RM for little utility early game, but enormous utility late game, for a MS, that is. Specializing as the other RM is still very good, considering you are basically a better double-same-role-RM. You can double the role blocks, double the investigations, and double the deceiving. Overall, it might not be too good early game, but definitely good late game when you only have one MK left alive.
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Re: Generalist - Mafia (Support)

Postby RiceHatMan » Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:57 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:This is similar to Forum Mafia's Mafioso. Instead it's 3-shot instead of can only target one player once.

I just looked at it. Yeah it is very similar, literally the exact same, but I do think it would be played very differently because of the different gameplay and such. Do you suggest I bring back the 3 uses?
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