Indugio(Mafia Support)

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Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby cob709 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:55 pm

Role Name:
Indugio

Role Alignment:
Mafia Support

Abilities:
- Each night, you may visit a player and delay their action.

Attributes:
- Delayed players will perform their selected action on the next night, they will be notified that they were roleblocked.
- Delayed actions will become astral
- You may select members of the Mafia

Notifications:
[Indugio]: You have decided to delay [Player]'s action tonight!
[Player]: You were roleblocked last night!

Goal:
Kill anyone that will not submit to the Mafia.

Win Conditions:
Spoiler: You win with the Mafia
You win with the Witches
You win with the Survivors
You must kill the Town
You must kill the Arsonist
You must kill the Serial Killer
You must kill the Werewolf
You must kill the Vampires
You must kill the Coven
You must kill the Plaguebearer
You must kill the Pestilence
You must kill the Juggernaut
You may spare anyone else


Special Attributes:
- Attack: None
- Defense: None
- Roleblock Immune

Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious!
Investigator - Your target could be an Escort, Consort, Transporter, Hypnotist or Indugio!
Consigliere - Your target distracts people from work, they must be a Indugio!

Achievements:
- TBA

Additional Information:
- This role is somewhat similar to a Consort, but it has significant differences that make both roles unique, and play styles different.
- The Indugio can be used to help Mafia make Astral kills, which solves Jailor Meta. It can also confuse Investigative roles, as they would visit two players, and thus causing two messages to appear for that night.
- An action cannot be delayed twice.
- Roleblock immune roles are also immune to the Indugio.

Lore:
- TBA
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby TheFluffyWaffleV2 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:21 pm

This would be a better role for the Coven.
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby cob709 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:24 pm

TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:This would be a better role for the Coven.

coven already has astral visits
giving it to mafia now
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby OreCreeper » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:26 pm

cob709 wrote:Role Name:
Indugio

Role Alignment:
Mafia Support

Abilities:
- Each night, you may visit a player and delay their action.

Attributes:
- Delayed players will perform their selected action on the next night, they will be notified that they were roleblocked.
- Delayed actions will become astral
- You may select members of the Mafia

Notifications:
[Indugio]: You have decided to delay [Player]'s action tonight!
[Player]: You were roleblocked last night!

Goal:
Kill anyone that will not submit to the Mafia.

Win Conditions:
You win with the Mafia
You win with the Witches
You win with the Survivors
You must kill the Town
You must kill the Arsonist
You must kill the Serial Killer
You must kill the Werewolf
You must kill the Vampires
You must kill the Coven
You must kill the Plaguebearer
You must kill the Pestilence
You must kill the Juggernaut
You may spare anyone else

Special Attributes:
- Attack: None
- Defense: None

Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious!
Investigator - Your target could be an Escort, Consort, Transporter, Hypnotist or Indugio!
Consigliere - Your target distracts people from work, they must be a Indugio!

Achievements:
- TBA

Additional Information:
- This role is somewhat similar to a Consort, but it has significant differences that make both roles unique, and play styles different.
- The Indugio can be used to help Mafia make Astral kills, which solves Jailor Meta. It can also confuse Investigative roles, as they would visit two players, and thus causing two messages to appear for that night.
- An action cannot be delayed twice.
- Roleblock immune roles are also immune to the Indugio.

Lore:
- TBA

So this can delay a mafia attack but one night for the purpose of making it astral, but it's just a worse consort beyond that. If you distract a townie, they'll know it's you when they get 2 results the following night, so it doesn't really affect TI at all (it just causes them to recieve info later, whereas consort can block them from recieving info at all). Also what happens if you delay a TP's ability, for example, and then they perform their ability on the same person the next night. If it was BG, and there were 2 attackers, does the BG defend from both?
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby TheFluffyWaffleV2 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:29 pm

OreCreeper wrote:So this can delay a mafia attack but one night for the purpose of making it astral, but it's just a worse consort beyond that. If you distract a townie, they'll know it's you when they get 2 results the following night, so it doesn't really affect TI at all (it just causes them to recieve info later, whereas consort can block them from recieving info at all). Also what happens if you delay a TP's ability, for example, and then they perform their ability on the same person the next night. If it was BG, and there were 2 attackers, does the BG defend from both?

I think the way they intended it to work is that TI will get the results for the target they wanted to visit when they were roleblocked, but aren't told about this change in results.
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby OreCreeper » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:44 pm

TheFluffyWaffleV2 wrote:
OreCreeper wrote:So this can delay a mafia attack but one night for the purpose of making it astral, but it's just a worse consort beyond that. If you distract a townie, they'll know it's you when they get 2 results the following night, so it doesn't really affect TI at all (it just causes them to recieve info later, whereas consort can block them from recieving info at all). Also what happens if you delay a TP's ability, for example, and then they perform their ability on the same person the next night. If it was BG, and there were 2 attackers, does the BG defend from both?

I think the way they intended it to work is that TI will get the results for the target they wanted to visit when they were roleblocked, but aren't told about this change in results.

I quote:
cob709 wrote: It can also confuse Investigative roles, as they would visit two players, and thus causing two messages to appear for that night.

The OP specifically mentioned that 2 messages would appear so I doubt that's what they meant.
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby Harryyoshi » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:47 pm

First of all, this role has a little RNG, such as the Investigative results coming in two at once. Also, and more importantly, this role heavily relies on there to not be an Doctors in the game. If there are, the astral part of the visit is just not useful at all and might save you from LO, but I would definitely want a better supporting Mafia, such as Blackmailer, or even Consort. Also, what if your target dies during the same night? Can a Bodyguard die guarding someone the next day when they are already dead then? Or even yet, can you attack someone who is already dead? Not to mention that if this role were to have the highest priority (unless it doesn't, which sucks), you can delay veteran and transporter. Also, (infinite paradox warning) what if a Witch controls you into yourself? You can see how this role also kind of breaks the game.
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby TheFluffyWaffleV2 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:55 pm

OreCreeper wrote:I quote:
cob709 wrote: It can also confuse Investigative roles, as they would visit two players, and thus causing two messages to appear for that night.

The OP specifically mentioned that 2 messages would appear so I doubt that's what they meant.

Then that’s kinda stuepit
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby cob709 » Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:25 pm

Harryyoshi wrote:First of all, this role has a little RNG, such as the Investigative results coming in two at once. Also, and more importantly, this role heavily relies on there to not be an Doctors in the game. If there are, the astral part of the visit is just not useful at all and might save you from LO, but I would definitely want a better supporting Mafia, such as Blackmailer, or even Consort. Also, what if your target dies during the same night? Can a Bodyguard die guarding someone the next day when they are already dead then? Or even yet, can you attack someone who is already dead? Not to mention that if this role were to have the highest priority (unless it doesn't, which sucks), you can delay veteran and transporter. Also, (infinite paradox warning) what if a Witch controls you into yourself? You can see how this role also kind of breaks the game.

this role cant affect roleblock immune roles, nor can it be affected by roleblocking roles(adding that to OP now)

edit: also i forgot to add a poll, it has been added
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby Mystoc » Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:16 pm

cob709 wrote:Role Name:
Indugio

Role Alignment:
Mafia Support

Abilities:
- Each night, you may visit a player and delay their action.

okay

Attributes:
- Delayed players will perform their selected action on the next night, they will be notified that they were roleblocked.

when are they told this the night you delay the action or the next night when they do they delayed action?

- Delayed actions will become astral

with town this could mess up some people like LO but doesnt really matter if town as astral actions

- You may select members of the Mafia

so mafia gets astral attack but .5 kills a night instead hmm prolly not ever worth it


Notifications:
[Indugio]: You have decided to delay [Player]'s action tonight!
[Player]: You were roleblocked last night!

Goal:
Kill anyone that will not submit to the Mafia.

Win Conditions:
Spoiler: You win with the Mafia
You win with the Witches
You win with the Survivors
You must kill the Town
You must kill the Arsonist
You must kill the Serial Killer
You must kill the Werewolf
You must kill the Vampires
You must kill the Coven
You must kill the Plaguebearer
You must kill the Pestilence
You must kill the Juggernaut
You may spare anyone else


Special Attributes:
- Attack: None
- Defense: None
- Roleblock Immune

Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious!
Investigator - Your target could be an Escort, Consort, Transporter, Hypnotist or Indugio!
Consigliere - Your target distracts people from work, they must be a Indugio!

Achievements:
- TBA

Additional Information:
- This role is somewhat similar to a Consort, but it has significant differences that make both roles unique, and play styles different.

its better then consort, this can somtimes RB for two nights because the delayed action could be vrs a dead person or an TI role could be visiting someone who just revealed their role the day before or town could have new info that makes them not want to visit the person they were visiting the night before also this can mess with TI roles since they dont know they were redirected and just think it was a normal consort the night before

this is a better then consort in it can give mafia astral attack but at the price of .5 kills it can also visit mafia teamates to confuse spy this is better then consort in every way possible, is it balanced maybe

the only nerf i would give it tell the person their action was delayed dont fool them into think it was a RB, this role doesnt need the TI fooling factor as well



- The Indugio can be used to help Mafia make Astral kills, which solves Jailor Meta. It can also confuse Investigative

no it doesnt the person stil gets healed from the attack they just dont get seen or attacked back and mafia is stuck with .5 kills

roles, as they would visit two players, and thus causing two messages to appear for that night.
- An action cannot be delayed twice.
- Roleblock immune roles are also immune to the Indugio.

what happens if who they were gonna visit the night before dies who do you visit the next night with delayed action are u freed from being delayed or do you waste a night visiting nobody?

Lore:
- TBA
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby FrenchyTheSphee » Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:07 am

Does this not just look like a worse consort??
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Re: Indugio(Mafia Support)

Postby Mystoc » Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:05 pm

FrenchyTheSphee wrote:Does this not just look like a worse consort??


no its better, since it fools TI and locks you into an action you might not want to do anymore, you get RBed silently then the next night do the action you would of done the night before
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