Guardian Angel to Survivor, Executioner to Jester

[cob709]

As an executioner, you gotta lynch your target to win right? Well if your target dies at night then you become a jester and have to get lynched instead. Okay yeah, makes sense. But is that really right? The executioner fails their first objective and then immediately gets a new one to complete instead of losing. It's also pretty boring playing as either of these roles because you don't actually get an ability. If you supposedly win as an executioner, then you can just sit there and do nothing. After you get lynched, you can also sit there and do nothing. How do you add spicy to these two roles?

GA protects a randomly assigned target. If they fail, they become a survivor without an ability. So once again just getting a new objective instead of losing. Kinda sucks. Are we like- just fine with this or do we want better objectives for these roles?

[dolphina]

We're fine with this

[cob709]

ok

[Brilliand]

It isn't nice that these roles get a new goal when they fail their first one, but the alternative is worse. We really don't want roles hanging around that have a literally impossible goal but are still alive somehow.

So the options are either transform the player into something else when their target dies, or kill them immediately like they're Lovers or something. (Or rework the roles to have goals that they can't survive failing.)

[JakeTheSnake5963]

Personally executioner is one of my favourite roles, and the conversion is very fair to me. Many games my target will die N1 or N2 (something I can't control) so the jester conversion at least makes the role more fun when your target dies uncontrollably. Also an exe who wins can act as an extra voter for evils, and I like it when I get to be that deciding vote to determine what faction wins (you can make players say the funniest things in the hopes that they will win your vote).

[cob709]

I love playing executioner.
There was this player that named himself "lawyer" and said to whisper him if we want to lynch someone
So he lynched my target for me lmao