Framer Buff

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Framer Buff

Postby AlanTheBoringMan » Mon May 25, 2020 4:28 pm

The framer is generally seen as a fairly useless mafia role in the tos community. It can be helpful at some points, but it's very easily proven wrong/found out by other ti. What I propose is that the framer gets the ability to choose from a list what their target may appear to be. Having everyone appear as framer/jest/vamp isn't all that useful, especially when the mafia need a lot of chaos in town to win.



Role Name: Framer


Role Alignment: Mafia


Abilities: Frame your target to appear as an evil role.


Attributes: If your target is investigated they will have the results of that role and appear suspicious. The list of possible roles to frame your target as are: Serial Killer, Werewolf, any member of the Mafia besides Godfather, and any member of the Coven (In the coven dlc only).

Here is an example:
The Framer chooses to frame town member #7 as Serial Killer. The sheriff sees them as suspicious, and the investigator sees them as "doctor, disguiser, serial killer".


Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious.
Investigator - Your target could be a Framer, Vampire, or Jester.
Witch/Consigliere - Your target has a desire to deceive. They must be a Framer!


Additional Information: The frame still retains its priority over other roles in the game. The frame is blocked if the target is jailed. A person framed as a Werewolf will appear suspicious even if it is an odd night.
Witches and Coven roles will be fooled by the framer and see the framer's target as the selected role the framer picked. The Consigliere will have the same results as if the target was not framed.

Hopefully with this addition to framer, it can help buff mafia and cause a bit more of a disturbance to town. Confirming roles and claims in town is very important and town doesn't pay much attention to who is framed. I'm hoping that this could help with evils claiming and making it harder for town to be confirmed. A well timed frame can make what town thought was a bodyguard appear as something much more malicious. This could be a well needed buff for mafia that won't be too overpowered as players will begin to be able to recognize a frame as time goes on. For mafia the frame can be important for getting mislynches and help sow the seeds of doubt and suspicion in the town's mind.

If you have any feedback or additions you'd like to make please let me know!
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Re: Framer Buff

Postby kubakuba007 » Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:34 am

this doesn't fix the main problem with the framer: he hardly ever selects the same target as a TI and usually is just an extra vote for the mafia
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Re: Framer Buff

Postby Soulshade55r » Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:14 am

kubakuba007 wrote:this doesn't fix the main problem with the framer: he hardly ever selects the same target as a TI and usually is just an extra vote for the mafia



Actually imo the main problem is spies existence instead of making town susp they make them confirmed through visiting, Framer is still kinda weak for mafia without that but that's the biggest problem with framer, not to mention it only effects 2 Tis (3 in coven I think). Which is only half of the Ti's making it insanely situational
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