Multiple Role Ideas: 2 Neutrals , 1 Town , 1 Coven

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Multiple Role Ideas: 2 Neutrals , 1 Town , 1 Coven

Postby NightTwoMedium » Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:46 am

Note: Some of them might not be original and if so point them out as I don't know if there was already something similar to one of these in the past

(Neutral)

Name: Forger Rework / Thief

Alignment: Neutral Evil

Speciality: Deception and Communication

Weakness: No Power or Control over some situations

Introduction: You are a criminal that has a connection with a dangerous society

Background Story: The Thief appears normal looking and wears a long coat smudged with ink and having a fedora similar to what an Investigator would look like, however they are covered with bruises and has an dangerous aura that you can feel. Since they were an Ex-Criminal/Prisoner they have connections with previous criminals and/or currrent criminals like the Mafia and Serial Killer which explains why they are notified if they have came in contact, they also sabotage other's plans that's why they are
roleblocked.They also secretely have a grudge against the Town

Attack: None

Defense: Basic

Unique Role: Yes?

Priority: 1 (Day) , 2 (Night)

Abilities:

-During the Day, you may decide to switch last wills with a player

-During the Night, you may decide to roleblock a player

Mechanics pt 1:

(Day ability)

-Your last will will be switched with the player of your choosing and you will in return recieve a copy of their last will

-You will be notified if you have switched wills with a Non-Town Aligned player

-Non-Town aligned players will know if their last wills have been switched

-Town aligned players will not know if their last wills have been switched

-You can only perform your ability during the discussion and trial phase

(Night ability)

-Same as Escort/Consort roleblock mechanics

-You can only perform your night ability 4 times per game.

Attributes:

*You are immune to roleblocks

*You have a spare bulletproof vest that protects you against the first Basic Attack

Mechanics pt 2:

N/A

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff: Your target is Suspicious

Investigator:

Lookout/Forger/Witch or Coven Leader if it's a Forger rework,

if not then Investigator/Consigliere/Mayor/Plaguebearer/Tracker/Thief

Consigliere/Witch: Your target has contacts with dangerous criminals and have sheets of paper with ink. They must be the Thief

Goal: Same as Witch

Wins With: Same as Witch

Must Kill: Same as Witch




(Neutral)

Name: Scavenger

Alignment: Neutral Killing

Introduction: You are a traveller that kills to take others' equipment

Speciality: Raw Killing Power and Deception

Weakness: Low Defense and Slow to Kill

Background Story: The Scavenger is a shady looking fellow wearing a long cape and hood that hides their identity, it also explains why the Handgun isn't seen easily by the sheriff and why bigger guns like the Rifle and Minigun are seen, the weapons are also old aged and rusty therefore makes the person "bleed" instead of dying and needs a finisher

Attack: Powerful to Basic

Defense: None to Powerful

Unique Role: No

Priority: 5 (Kill), 6 (Visit)

Abilities:

-During the Night, you may use a weapon of your choice to hit someone

Mechanics pt 1:

-Using a weapon will hit both your previous target and your new target

-All weapons will deal a default Powerful Attack except for the Minigun (This does not mean the targets die from the first visit)

-Your target/s need to be hit by 2 weapons in order to have the weapon's effect

Weapons include:

Rifle: Your attack cannot be protected by Town Protectives and you will recieve Powerful Defense for the current night and the night after however you are roleblocked on the second night

Minigun: Your attack will be a Rampage however you will no longer perform a Powerful Attack but instead you will do a Basic Attack

Minigun pt 2: The rampage will affect all those who visit the target the night you decide to use the Weapon

Handgun: You will have astral visits, Detection Immunity, and appear to be a Vigilante to the Investigator for the current night however you will be dealt by a Basic Attack the night after

Attributes:

-None (Although the Weapon mechanics may be included here)

Mechanics pt 2:

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff: Your target is Suspicious (Without using the handgun), Your target seems Innocent (If the handgun was used)

Investigator: Bodyguard/Godfather/Arsonist/Crusader/Scavenger (Without using the handgun), Vigilante/Veteran/Mafioso/Pirate/Ambusher/Scavenger (If the handgun was used)

Consigliere/Witch: Your target hides their identity with a ragged cloak and has stock of rustic and worn-out weapons in their bag. They must be the Scavenger

Goal: Same as SK

Wins With: Same as SK

Must Kill: Same as SK


(Town)

Name: Journalist

Alignment: Town investigative

Note: This is a revised version of a role that I made in the past (Willowhisperer)

Introduction: You are a booksmart person that keeps tracks of every situation in the past and creates an answer from it

Speciality: Raw Information Power

Weakness: Low Confirmability and Low Contribution

Background Story: The Journalist is in their 20's carrying huge glasses and a book, they have a introverted personality and doesn't appear to look friendly. They have currently experienced plenty of disasters and killer reports in their time that's why they can see "hints" or clues that reveal roles present within the game.

Attack: None

Defense: None

Unique Role: No

Priority: 1

Abilities:

-During the Night, You may recieve a hint saying 1 random Town Role present within the game and get stronger as the game progresses

Mechanics pt 1:

-You may only recieve a hint during even nights

-The role given cannot be a Unique Role

-You will be notified if every Town Role has been known through hints

-If a player was revived by a Retributionist they will not appear in your "Random Town Role" message

-If you are roleblocked the night where you should've gotten the hint, then you won't recieve the hint with the exception of the N4 Attribute

Attributes:

-Upon reaching N2, you will temporarily be immune to roleblocks after lynching a Non-Town aligned role

-Upon reaching N4 you will recieve a hint stating 2 Random Non-Town roles present within the game (These also share the mechanics found in the mechanics pt 1 section)

-Upon reaching N5 you may check a player if they are one of the roles given to you by a letter
Mechanics pt 2:

N/A

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff: Your target seems Innocent

Investigator: Survivor/Vampire Hunter/Amnesiac/Psychic/Medusa/Journalist

Consigliere/Witch: Your target seems to be calm in danger and has solutions ready for them. They must be the Journalist

Goal: Same as Town

Wins With: Same as Town


(Coven)

Name:  Mermaid

Alignment:  ​Coven Evil​

Introduction: You are a beautiful lady with a captivating voice that lures whoever hears it slowly to their doom

Attack: Basic (With or Without Necro)

Defense: None (With or Without Necro)

Unique Role: Yes

Priority: 1 (Day Ability), 2(Night Ability)

Abilities:

-During The Day, You may decide to reap the "Lured" based on how long they have listened to your song

-During The Night, You may play your song which can only be heard by people that have met the condition, (With Necro) you can now select up to 2 conditions and can instead play a song that directly strikes your target with a Basic Attack

Mechanics pt 1:

(How the Ability Works #1)

-You will be given a GUI at the start of the night, from there you can choose whether to attack a player directly(Which is disabled if they don't have the Necronomicon ofc) or sing for those who have met the condition which makes them "Lured",After selecting the option to sing for those who have met the condition. you are presented with 3 different conditions from which you may choose
Sample of Conditions

1: People will hear the Mermaid's Song if they visited Player X(Choosable) on their death
2: People will hear the Mermaid's Song if they have visited a member of the Coven
3: People will hear the Mermaid's Song if they have recieved a notification/message from another Coven Member (Ex: You were witched)

-Coven Members are not affected by the Song but can influence people to hear the Mermaid's Song by making them activate the condition

-The targets will not know which condition was used to 'Lure" them but will recieve a message saying that they were "Lured"

(How the Ability Works #2)

-If a player has met a condition set by the Mermaid they will be "Lured", which then you may reap by selecting the Sun Icon,the players are affected based on how many times they have heard the Mermaid's Song,.

-After performing your day ability, you can not perform your Night Ability and your coven members are notified that you had decided to Reap the targets

Sample of Effects

1: (First Time), You are also attacked by the same attacker if you have visited someone who has been attacked, the next night
(How it plays out)

So let's say Player X had listened to the Mermaid's Song for 1 time now and it's N1,The Mermaid has clicked on the sun icon which would reap the player,Player X is then notified N2 that he will also be attacked if he visits someone who is also attacked,After N3 Player X will no longer be attacked if they also visited a player who was  attacked

2: (Second Time), You are dealt by a Basic Attack the next night
(How it plays out)

So let's say Player X had listened to the Mermaid's Song for 2 times now and it's N2,The Mermaid has clicked on the sun icon which would reap the player,Player X is then notified N2 that he will be attacked the next night.

3: (Third Time), You are immediately dealt by a Basic Attack and your last will is hidden, your role is also replaced with "Drowned" (Basically like Medusa's "Stoned" but it's just to clarify if they were attacked by a Mermaid or a Medusa)

(How it plays out)

-So let's say Player X had listened to the Mermaid's Song for 3 times now and it's N3,The Mermaid has clicked on the sun icon which would reap the player,Player X is notified that he will be attacked tonight.

Attributes:

-Standard Coven Attributes (May speak in the Coven Chat, etc)

-You will know if someone has heard your song

Mechanics pt 2:

-Investigative Results-

Sheriff: Your target is Suspicious (Without Necro), Innocent (With Necro)

Investigator: ​Escort​/​Transporter​/​Consort​/​Hypnotist​/Mermaid

Consigliere/Witch/Coven Leader: Your target sings for something evil.They must be the Mermaid

Goal: Same as Coven

Wins With: Same as Coven

Must Kill: Same as Coven
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Re: Multiple Role Ideas: 2 Neutrals , 1 Town , 1 Coven

Postby fwogcarf » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:11 pm

Thief is meh

Scavenger is bad

Journalist is useless

Mermaid doesn't really have a place in the game as it's too similar to Medusa
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Re: Multiple Role Ideas: 2 Neutrals , 1 Town , 1 Coven

Postby NightTwoMedium » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:13 pm

fwogcarf wrote:Thief is meh

Scavenger is bad 1.

Journalist is useless 2.

Mermaid doesn't really have a place in the game as it's too similar to Medusa 3.


1. Bad as in what? Slow killing? Unhealthy? Way too similar?

2. Useless as in? Slow? Ability is not that great? etc?

3. Would it be better if the mechanics get turned into something slightly more different in an another faction? Do you feel it's worth balancing?
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Re: Multiple Role Ideas: 2 Neutrals , 1 Town , 1 Coven

Postby fwogcarf » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:16 pm

NightTwoMedium wrote:
fwogcarf wrote:Thief is meh

Scavenger is bad 1.

Journalist is useless 2.

Mermaid doesn't really have a place in the game as it's too similar to Medusa 3.


1. Bad as in what? Slow killing? Unhealthy? Way too similar?

2. Useless as in? Slow? Ability is not that great? etc?

3. Would it be better if the mechanics get turned into something slightly more different in an another faction? Do you feel it's worth balancing?

Scavenger is basically a weaker werewolf. they take two nights to kill someone with a weapon, and the weapons that the person uses need to be 1-shot in order for this role to actually have a chance in working.

Journalist has the same capabilities of a role as a Medium. Both roles are incredibly easy to fake. I don't believe it's needed because it would upset the balance of the game. Hi, I'm the journalist, and so and so is town. How believable is that? It doesn't have any other capabilities other than the even night check it gets, making this role basically useless.

Mermaid in general i think needs to be completely reworked into something unique. People have proposed something called the Siren role, where they lure people in to kill them. It was tested I think, then scrapped. Roles that lure aren't that great in the game.
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