Brilliand wrote:This is a decent idea, but Tactical Mafia Kills is better.
ACourtesan wrote:The reason I don't care for that change is the potential ability for any Mafia member to throw under that circumstance.
Brilliand wrote:ACourtesan wrote:The reason I don't care for that change is the potential ability for any Mafia member to throw under that circumstance.
Who cares? If a mafia member wants to throw, they can do that by outing the entire Mafia in daytime chat. Nothing stops them from doing that but the report function.
Brilliand wrote:So you're not talking about throwing, you're talking about players being dumb.
With your system, a dumb Godfather can throw every other member of the Mafia to the Veteran, and there's nothing the other Mafia members can do about it.
With Tactical Mafia Kills, the player who controls the kill also suffers the consequences if it goes wrong. If the dumb player picks the Veteran to attack, it's the dumb player who dies. On top of that, the other players have a chance every night to snatch control of the Mafia kill away from him, if he's repeatedly attacking the Jailor with a Doctor alive or something.
It seems to me that Tactical Mafia Kills does a better job of compensating for dumb players.
ACourtesan wrote:I don't know how you think TMK does a better job compensating for dumb players when it increases the likelihood said dumb player gets a role (any Mafia 4/15 vs GF, 1/15) that can lock Mafia out of killing important targets.
Brilliand wrote:ACourtesan wrote:I don't know how you think TMK does a better job compensating for dumb players when it increases the likelihood said dumb player gets a role (any Mafia 4/15 vs GF, 1/15) that can lock Mafia out of killing important targets.
The difference is that in TMK, said dumb player can't lock the mafia out of killing important targets. They can cause a race at the start of nighttime, in which they have a 1 in 4 chance each night of locking the Mafia out of killing important targets for that night. That's less damaging.
...and if the dumb player walks into the Veteran or Bodyguard, they stop hindering the Mafia. That's a perk of TMK too.
Royee wrote:***Everyone*** has the ability to either throw or play foolish enough to lose the game, and in fact if you click on the Forum Mafia category(or go to any FM) and go reading some games you will notice that most of the players are playing dumb(bad example but whatever). TMK always does a better job than any other killing methods.
Assuming x will play like y or x will do y is not how to make changes or new roles.
ACourtesan wrote:TMK requires the removal of Ambusher and makes Godfather mostly redundant.
We don't need to make another Mafia role redundant nor remove one of the better Mafia roles.
ACourtesan wrote:Sure he can. I'll be the dumb player. I can set up an auto clicker that will click faster than you can.
All I have to do is find the Exe/Arso/WW/SK, whatever.
Good luck clicking faster than my automated system that locks in the target with defense.
Like I said, even voting would be preferable to any Mafia member being able to do this.
DragonClaw66 wrote:ACourtesan wrote:TMK requires the removal of Ambusher and makes Godfather mostly redundant.
We don't need to make another Mafia role redundant nor remove one of the better Mafia roles.
With TMK, the Godfather is buffed, not left redundant. It receives a list of all night actions directed toward members of the Mafia while also retaining its natural basic defense. Also, why would the Ambusher need to be removed with the addition of TMK? It seems compatible.
Brilliand wrote:ACourtesan wrote:Sure he can. I'll be the dumb player. I can set up an auto clicker that will click faster than you can.
All I have to do is find the Exe/Arso/WW/SK, whatever.
Good luck clicking faster than my automated system that locks in the target with defense.
Like I said, even voting would be preferable to any Mafia member being able to do this.
You're not positing a "dumb player" at this point. You're positing a genius out to throw while pretending to be dumb.
I think you're being ridiculous.
Royee wrote:Its more of a **fact** when it comes to TMK.
ACourtesan wrote:Royee wrote:Its more of a **fact** when it comes to TMK.
What is? That it's superior?
We can agree to disagree.
Game's been out for 6ish years.
The idea posted for 4.
Could've been changed to that at any point.
They still utilize 1 person control of the killing mechanic.
ACourtesan wrote:lolwut? It doesn't take a genius to set up an auto clicker, my kids could do it.
ACourtesan wrote:It's an opinion. And my opinion isn't going to change because, no matter how you slice it, what I said remains true.
Royee wrote:Isn't there a spam detector or something like that
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