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framer should be allowed to visit mafia and make them appear as ns to sheriffs

This would certainly make it less of a crap role, lol.

This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

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And so what would happen if an Investigator visits them? Will they be framer/vamp/jest?

alternatively remove Flake epic style

Few questions. Is this using the framer rework of selecting the investigator results? Would it be too OP for Framer to just make a mafia look town every night over using it for it's intended purposes? What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

If there's a double Framer and Godfather making 3 sheriffs useless, the two framers are still underpowered.

Brilliand wrote:This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

Visiting mafia would also fuck up the spy's results.

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

2 framers can only make 2 mafias invisible, meaning there is still 1 for the sheriff to find, and mafia isn't gaining information or removing information/blocking rezes. Still weak in a 2 framer game.

StrahmDude wrote:

Brilliand wrote:This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

Visiting mafia would also fuck up the spy's results.

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

2 framers can only make 2 mafias invisible, meaning there is still 1 for the sheriff to find, and mafia isn't gaining information or removing information/blocking rezes. Still weak in a 2 framer game.

1. Spy shouldn't have a passive ability like that to begin with
2. GF + 2 framers = no mafia that sheriff can find.

JacksonVirgo wrote:

StrahmDude wrote:

Brilliand wrote:This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

Visiting mafia would also fuck up the spy's results.

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

2 framers can only make 2 mafias invisible, meaning there is still 1 for the sheriff to find, and mafia isn't gaining information or removing information/blocking rezes. Still weak in a 2 framer game.

1. Spy shouldn't have a passive ability like that to begin with
2. GF + 2 framers = no mafia that sheriff can find.

So if you sacrifice the mafioso and just let them die then yes you can hide the entire mafia. Just pray an escort or jailor doesn't lock you out of kills, and like I said it's still very weak.