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framer update

Postby RollerGirl1234 » Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:07 pm

framer should be allowed to visit mafia and make them appear as ns to sheriffs
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Re: framer update

Postby mikimomo » Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:11 pm

This would certainly make it less of a crap role, lol.
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Re: framer update

Postby Brilliand » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:41 pm

This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.
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Re: framer update

Postby BasicFourLife » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:16 pm

Your word has been denied.
If Shapesifter13 tells you that your suggestion will be considered, it never will.
If you’re making a post, thinking you’re gonna impact the game, you won’t.
If you make an another fucking thread about the poor state of the game, you should move on.
If you suggest that Firefighter be added to the game or the fact that Retributionist should die when they resurrect, I will personally murder you instead.

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Re: framer update

Postby SparkingJayYT » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:25 pm

And so what would happen if an Investigator visits them? Will they be framer/vamp/jest?
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Re: framer update

Postby Flake » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:51 pm

alternatively remove bad role epic style
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Re: framer update

Postby JacksonVirgo » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:00 am

alternatively remove Flake epic style
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Re: framer update

Postby JacksonVirgo » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:02 am

Few questions. Is this using the framer rework of selecting the investigator results? Would it be too OP for Framer to just make a mafia look town every night over using it for it's intended purposes? What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless
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Re: framer update

Postby Brilliand » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:32 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless


If there's a double Framer and Godfather making 3 sheriffs useless, the two framers are still underpowered.
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Re: framer update

Postby StrahmDude » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:10 am

Brilliand wrote:This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

Visiting mafia would also fuck up the spy's results.

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

2 framers can only make 2 mafias invisible, meaning there is still 1 for the sheriff to find, and mafia isn't gaining information or removing information/blocking rezes. Still weak in a 2 framer game.
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Re: framer update

Postby JacksonVirgo » Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:18 am

StrahmDude wrote:
Brilliand wrote:This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

Visiting mafia would also fuck up the spy's results.

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

2 framers can only make 2 mafias invisible, meaning there is still 1 for the sheriff to find, and mafia isn't gaining information or removing information/blocking rezes. Still weak in a 2 framer game.



1. Spy shouldn't have a passive ability like that to begin with
2. GF + 2 framers = no mafia that sheriff can find.
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Re: framer update

Postby StrahmDude » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:25 pm

JacksonVirgo wrote:
StrahmDude wrote:
Brilliand wrote:This has been suggested a few times. It isn't the favored solution, because the Framer would still be useless in games with no Sheriff or Investigator, but it's a decent idea nonetheless.

Visiting mafia would also fuck up the spy's results.

JacksonVirgo wrote:What stops a double framer and a godfather to just essentially make Sheriff useless

2 framers can only make 2 mafias invisible, meaning there is still 1 for the sheriff to find, and mafia isn't gaining information or removing information/blocking rezes. Still weak in a 2 framer game.



1. Spy shouldn't have a passive ability like that to begin with
2. GF + 2 framers = no mafia that sheriff can find.

So if you sacrifice the mafioso and just let them die then yes you can hide the entire mafia. Just pray an escort or jailor doesn't lock you out of kills, and like I said it's still very weak.
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