Put read whispers in a different color.

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Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:43 am

For BMer, whispers read should be in a different color than whispers received.

So there I was, reading these dudes whispers when someone whispered to me "im gonna shoot 11". I had claimed spy, cleared the consort, and things were looking up (11 was not maf), so I whispered "go for it dude".

Except hark! The vig was not actually whispering to me, but rather to someone similarly named. I had read that whisper as I was BMer and had whispered them something that I should not have had access to. Needless to say, I went from confirmed town to confirmed scum.

My suggestion is simple: for BMer (and future roles, should they exist, that are able to read whispers) whispers they read should be in a different color than whispers they got themselves, similar to how Jailor is in a grey offtone. Those whispers could even be a different shade of purple, just make them distinguishable.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

This matters - educate yourself.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Malphas » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:04 am

That seems reasonable.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby SparkingJayYT » Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:53 pm

I support this, I have done a similar thing couple of times before which is very frustrating so this minor suggestion would be great

I'd say a Brownish-red would be a distinguishable colour, different shade of Purple may still cause confusion.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby timurtheking » Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:21 pm

Git gud
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Kirize12 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:45 pm

timurtheking wrote:Git gud

Shit shut

we already have jailor set off to distinguish it from the maf, theres no reason this should be different other than that it is
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Flake » Tue Dec 31, 2019 7:34 pm

make them neon black
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby timurtheking » Wed Jan 01, 2020 5:22 am

Flake wrote:make them neon black

Neon Black is impossible
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Brilliand » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:46 am

timurtheking wrote:
Flake wrote:make them neon black

Neon Black is impossible


Take neon white and invert the colors. Your computer won't care.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby timurtheking » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:12 am

Brilliand wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
Flake wrote:make them neon black

Neon Black is impossible


Take neon white and invert the colours. Your computer won't care.

Neon Black is a physical contradiction
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Flake » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:24 am

timurtheking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
Flake wrote:make them neon black

Neon Black is impossible


Take neon white and invert the colours. Your computer won't care.

Neon Black is a physical contradiction

that where you is wrong
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby timurtheking » Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:41 am

Flake wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
Flake wrote:make them neon black

Neon Black is impossible


Take neon white and invert the colours. Your computer won't care.

Neon Black is a physical contradiction

that where you is wrong

Neon is a direct super “Bright” reflection of color, and since black doesn't technically reflect light there's no such thing as “Neon Black”. Black is a hue and not a true color it absorbs and takes in.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Flake » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:49 am

timurtheking wrote:
Flake wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
Brilliand wrote:
timurtheking wrote:
Flake wrote:make them neon black

Neon Black is impossible


Take neon white and invert the colours. Your computer won't care.

Neon Black is a physical contradiction

that where you is wrong

Neon is a direct super “Bright” reflection of color, and since black doesn't technically reflect light there's no such thing as “Neon Black”. Black is a hue and not a true color it absorbs and takes in.

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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby ScarfVendetta » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:12 am

Neon Clear is better tbh
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby JacksonVirgo » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:29 am

Wait why is this in the role-ideas sub-thread?
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby ScarfVendetta » Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:51 pm

JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait why is this in the role-ideas sub-thread?


Probably because the change is only really aimed at Blackmailer.

Suggestions would be more fitting though.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Flake » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:42 pm

JacksonVirgo wrote:Wait why is this in the role-ideas sub-thread?

because kirize is very low iq
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Kirize12 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:46 am

[quote="ScarfVendetta"
Probably because the change is only really aimed at Blackmailer.[/quote]

It pertains to a role, so it's Role Ideas. If I posted it in suggestions it'd just be moved either way.
Factional balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because they cause Town to win a disproportionate amount

Strategical balance - understanding that whisper games are bad because there's no reason to use any other strategy

Structural balance - understanding that disabling the Mayor's whispers, despite it fixing whisper games, means that a player can't use a core mechanic of the game and is still bad

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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 am

Kirize12 wrote:
ScarfVendetta wrote:Probably because the change is only really aimed at Blackmailer.


It pertains to a role, so it's Role Ideas. If I posted it in suggestions it'd just be moved either way.

This is not relevant to the idea but it would fit in Suggestions because it isn't a change to how the role-works but the UI instead.
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VFM60 - Sol (Citizen) - Win
19E - Cordelia (Janitor) - Win
19F - Consort - Loss
VFM62 - Citizen - Loss
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Brilliand » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:17 am

timurtheking wrote:Neon Black is a physical contradiction


A light that shines black is a physical contradiction, but you can still fake a picture of it.
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby DoodleNoodleFroodle » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:23 am

Oh yes, it's like a quality of life improvement
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby Pterodactilus » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:24 am

I would like to see this implemented
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Re: Put read whispers in a different color.

Postby StrahmDude » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:00 pm

All the junk comments aside, please do add this. It is a great idea and clarity is always needed.
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