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Labrat - Mafia (Deception)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:55 pm
by PogoPokemon
As dumb as this role may sound, I feel like it is necessary. During endgame in some matches, there's always those roles that can easily end a mafia by using their same action over and over again (Escort, Transporter etc.) and it literally just destroys a 3 man mafia consisting of the Godfather, Mafioso and a Framer. Hence, this is why I implement the Labrat role.

Role Name: Labrat


Role Alignment: Mafia (Killing)


Abilities:
- Select a player each night to perform their night action on you.


Attributes:
- This applies to any role, including killing and even investigative. However it doesn't apply on roles that don't visit a player each night (Jailor or Veteran).
- They will not be informed that their action was performed on you.


Notifications:
- If you visit a Jailor, you will just receive: "Your ability failed because your target was in jail."

Goal:
- Mafia Goal.

Win Conditions:
- Mafia Win Conditions.

Special Attributes:
None.

Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is suspicious.
Investigator -Your target could be a Bodyguard, Godfather, Arsonist, Crusader or Labrat.
Consigliere - (Please help me write this)

Achievements:
TBD.

Additional Information:
To be added.

Lore:
TBD.

Re: Labrat - Mafia (Deception)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:06 pm
by Brilliand
A 3 man mafia consisting of the Godfather, Mafioso and a Framer won't have a Labrat, so I don't think this will help with that situation.

This looks like it's basically a Consort that can roleblock Escorts and Transporters?

Re: Labrat - Mafia (Deception)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 2:37 pm
by PogoPokemon
Brilliand wrote:A 3 man mafia consisting of the Godfather, Mafioso and a Framer won't have a Labrat, so I don't think this will help with that situation. Well, I'm suggesting instead of a Framer. Also this role would generally be useful to mafia.

This looks like it's basically a Consort that can roleblock Escorts and Transporters? Well no, it redirects actions from anyone. If a doctor used their night action and the Labrat redirected the heal to themselves, they could potentially save themselves from a killer. Likewise, if a Lookout decides to target a user and you redirect them, they'll receive results for who visited you, not their original target.

Re: Labrat - Mafia (Deception)

PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:35 pm
by Brilliand
PogoPokemon wrote:
Brilliand wrote:This looks like it's basically a Consort that can roleblock Escorts and Transporters?
Well no, it redirects actions from anyone. If a doctor used their night action and the Labrat redirected the heal to themselves, they could potentially save themselves from a killer. Likewise, if a Lookout decides to target a user and you redirect them, they'll receive results for who visited you, not their original target.


Like I said, that's basically a consort. You've wasted their action, what does it matter whether they visited someone they didn't intend or simply didn't visit at all? The part where the Labrat can protect himself won't come up much (if at all), and anyway that's just another way the Labrat is stronger than the Consort.

Also, can this role be redirected by the Transporter or not? If so, then it generates paradoxes when a Transporter is being transported. If not, then that's distasteful because apparently the only reason for it to bypass transports is "so the Mafia has a counter to the Transporter".