Disguiser Rework/Buff List

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Disguiser Rework/Buff List

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:46 am

Disguiser's concept is absolutely amazing, but the practicality of the role is broken and I am sure everybody agrees. There are also so many different disguiser buff/rework ideas and I am going to create and edit this post to add as many somewhat solid ideas to compare to the original and come to a working rework (in theory). If you have a better name for any of these or have a suggestion of your own, let me know and I can add yours to the list and credit you accordingly.

Current Disguiser (for reference)
Pros: It can sometimes fool town in specific scenarios and is a unique take on a Town of Salem role.
Cons: Must be dead to use the intended ability.
Fun: Boring

BUFF IDEA LIST
Get Fooled
Summary: Retributionist can revive the Disguiser (from this thread)
Pros: Doesn't instantly confirm a revived target.
Cons: Wouldn't come into play often.

Get Fooled Ext..
Summary: Vigilante will suicide if the disguised player is Town. Jailor will lose executes if the Disguiser shows as town (obviously if a rework occurs where a jailed disguiser can be disguised).
Pros: Wouldn't instantly confirm them a Disguiser once the Vigilante doesn't suicide or the Jailor doesn't lose executes for killing a Town.
Cons: Could be abusable.

REWORK IDEA LIST
Removing Disguiser
Summary: Not hard to understand, remove it from the game entirely.
Pros: Removes one of the weakest roles in Mafia.
Cons: Taking the easy way out rather than reworking the awesome concept into something fun to play as.

Player Disguise
Summary: Disguise as somebody's role and face and visit accordingly.
Details: You can select someone to disguise as (disguisee) You can select somebody to disguise as and somebody to visit (target). Investigative roles checking a disguised target will see the disguisee's results (invest/sheriff). Lookouts will see the disguisee instead of the disguised player. If a Tracker tracks your disguisee, they will see them visit your target instead.
Pros: Incredibly deceptive as Mafia can 'visit' where they really can't as well as having Town 'visit' who they really didn't.
Cons: Could be confusing to play as and may still be situational.me.

Mafia Disguise
Summary: Disguise other Mafia as well as yourself.
Details: The ability to disguise other Mafia members as well as yourself.
Pros: Adding more versatility to the role making it less situational.
Cons: Still fairly situational.

Disguise Master
Summary: Disguise yourself as any role in the game, visit not required.
Details: You get a list of all roles in-game, even if they're not possible in that specific game-mode.
Pros: Not requiring to find a specific player or claim to set up a solid fake will.
Cons: It's kind of boring and if all of your claim space gets killed, you would have to claim one was disg.

Perma-Disguise
Summary: Disguise yourself as a player's role permanently, know what role you are.
Details: Disguise as somebody once throughout the game, you will know and show as that role until the end of the game.
Pros: You know what role you are and a Jailor's execute won't show that they are disguiser.
Cons: Kind of rips of Consigliere for one night and it won't be very fun to play as. In addition, if you disguise as an NK, NE or Mayor it's kind of unfortunate when you can't change.
Notes: ScratchCat said that if the Perma-Disguise change goes through, they shouldn't be able to disguise as Mayor. Perhaps not even unique Town roles at all

This is in early stages and I obviously haven't listed them all here, not even close so if you've got one you'd like to add or change please let me know, appreciated! Similar to the retri rework thread, let us keep the spam of 'disguiser' changes to a minimum and focus on this one thread (as long as I am not delusional creating this, which is possible :lol: )

(I usually check the forums every morning and night AEST, so I would update this daily if needed)
Last edited by JacksonVirgo on Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:28 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Disguiser Rework/Buff List

Postby ScratchCat » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:17 am

all changes I think are pretty good,just one question What. is a SK killed a Disq that (using last buff) disqiused as mayor. Then the real mayor would be like UMMMMMMM maybe make it so they can't change into mayor
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Re: Disguiser Rework/Buff List

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:22 am

ScratchCat wrote:all changes I think are pretty good,just one question What. is a SK killed a Disq that (using last buff) disqiused as mayor. Then the real mayor would be like UMMMMMMM maybe make it so they can't change into mayor


I don't like that change too much for that exact reason, but it's a suggested change so I am adding it to the list :D
I will add what you said to the post. Thank you
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