[Town Support] Ethereal

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[Town Support] Ethereal

Postby rickienon » Sun Sep 22, 2019 1:41 pm

Couldn't write colorstamps cuz I needed to be quick, sorry for font colours :cry:

Role Name: Ethereal
Role Alignment: Town Support
Immunities: No Attack, No Defense
Summary: An arcane psychic who helps people to get a determination
Priority: 1 (Lowest) 6 (Lower than Vampire Bite)


Abilities: Give a helping hand to a player each night to enchant their abilities
Your target will be immune for controlling and roleblocking
Your target's visit will be Astral
Your target will not know that they were visited by Ethereal
If your target dies that Night, you will die too

Attributes: Astral means your target won't physically visit their target, like Hex Master's visit with Necromonicon. They cannot be tracked by Lookout or Tracker.
If a roleblocker "astral visits" a Serial Killer, SK will stay at home and they won't attack their roleblocker. Same rule goes for Werewolf, however WW will kill their visitors with this way.
Ethereal suicide is similar to Vigilante's suicide except for one thing; If you get bitten at the Night your target was attacked, you won't die and you will become a Vampire.
Ethereal visits are not Astral.
You will know that if your target was controlled or roleblocked. However, under this effect, if they encounter one of these actions, they won't be notified. Ditto for roleblockers and controllers; they won't get notified that their target was visited by Ethereal but Witch/CL will learn their role.
Investigators, Sheriff and Consigliere will not be fooled by Arsonist, Hex Master or Framer's result changes, they will see the target's correct role(s).


Investigator Results:
Sheriff - Your target is not suspicious.
Investigator - Still working on it;
If the target can be informed ---> Spy, BM, Jailor section
Current version ---> BG, GF, Arso, Crus
v2 ---> LO, Forger, Witch
Consigliere - Your target is a mindmaster that helps people to take an action. They must be an Ethereal!


Goal: Town Win


Win Conditions: Current Town win conditions
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby Soulshade55r » Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:28 pm

Yo wtf is that avi, anyway this role is alright I guess.. seems a bit weak for the most part and relies on escorts being in game to be somewhat useful.
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:03 pm

Why is this a Town Protective? Why is this role confirmable asf?
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby rickienon » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:01 pm

JacksonVirgo wrote:Why is this a Town Protective? Why is this role confirmable asf?


Miswritten, edited it
It is not confirmable, both ethereal target and controller/rolebkocker will not get an info that if their abiliry worked or they encountered something etc

@Soulshade55r I quicku wrote it and let it go buy same opinion, it is kinda weak. Should add another ability to make it worthy
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby JacksonVirgo » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:10 pm

"Your target will not know that they were visited by Ethereal"
I swear, if they astral visited someone, they will know Ethereal is in game lol
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby Brilliand » Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:49 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:"Your target will not know that they were visited by Ethereal"
I swear, if they astral visited someone, they will know Ethereal is in game lol


Only if their visit is detected as astral. Most of the time, whether your visit is astral makes no difference.

I think this role is quite weak, and will tend to hurt the town more than it helps. I'm thinking the primary use of this role will be for Mafia to fakeclaim it when a fellow maf gets outed as "not visiting who you said you visited" by a Lookout or Veteran.
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby rickienon » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:10 am

Brilliand wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:"Your target will not know that they were visited by Ethereal"
I swear, if they astral visited someone, they will know Ethereal is in game lol


Only if their visit is detected as astral. Most of the time, whether your visit is astral makes no difference.

I think this role is quite weak, and will tend to hurt the town more than it helps. I'm thinking the primary use of this role will be for Mafia to fakeclaim it when a fellow maf gets outed as "not visiting who you said you visited" by a Lookout or Veteran.


Well I was gonna write those lines :D

I think I should make this combined with my role lawyer, which would be more interesting and balanced cuz like you said, this role does bot award the player that much and it is almost more useful if they do not use their ability very often (or maybe staying as AFK would be more useful)
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby JacksonVirgo » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:23 am

Though it is a good role, do you mean combine this role with the Lawyer? I've always hated roles whose names don't fit the Salem witch trial theme lol. If this role had Lawyer abilities, with the Astral visit. Yeah okay.

Though clean/stones should have the same result, otherwise you instantly confirm your visit to be Medusa.

EDIT: This was a mess of a reply, eh I am tired
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby rickienon » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:45 am

JacksonVirgo wrote:Though it is a good role, do you mean combine this role with the Lawyer? I've always hated roles whose names don't fit the Salem witch trial theme lol. If this role had Lawyer abilities, with the Astral visit. Yeah okay.

Though clean/stones should have the same result, otherwise you instantly confirm your visit to be Medusa.

EDIT: This was a mess of a reply, eh I am tired


Name stays same as Ethereal, just wanted to add the abilities. Lawyer’s effect lasts for the rest of game while this one’s is only active during visit. In that case, if someone tried to clean your target that means your target is attacked and has a high chance to die. at this case the Ethereal dies cuz of drawback :(
Gonna replace the death drawback with something else because like I said if I am gonna add a feature like this I should remove that drawback to work correctly
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Re: [Town Support] Ethereal

Postby JacksonVirgo » Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:58 am

At the moment, I am tired so I can't really give you feedback lol. I will likely respond back in the morning however I do like it if it's Lawyer/Ethereal combined. Finally somewhat good suggestions from rickienon lol
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