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Framer change idea

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:28 pm

Instead of the unlimited one person frames, the framer can click on himself 2 times to frame the entire town (excluding the godfather), except the first night (preparing)
spies will not see this as a visit

How this helps fix framer:
- it requires more skill now (in a good way)
- it is much more useful
- claiming being framed is actually decent now
- spy can't auto-confirm 2 maf visits instead of 3 as one of the mafs being jailed/rbd
- helps mafia and nk get more time which is exactly what they need as a boost
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby Brilliand » Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:33 pm

dota2reporter wrote:- it requires more skill now (in a good way)


Wouldn't this ability just get used the first 3 nights in most games?
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby TheRealChickenPatty » Wed Jun 05, 2019 5:13 pm

I feel that instead of it showing up as only a visit on yourself(Possibly outing you)It should show as a visit to the entire town,in order to throw off the Spy.
GF should also be framed from this,as if he is the only one not visited according to Spy will,it's pretty easy to find em.
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby Brilliand » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:11 pm

TheRealChickenPatty wrote:I feel that instead of it showing up as only a visit on yourself(Possibly outing you)It should show as a visit to the entire town,in order to throw off the Spy.


That wouldn't throw off the spy, though; any decent spy would know exactly what is happening.

It would be better for it to simply not show up.
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby TheRealChickenPatty » Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:22 pm

Brilliand wrote:
That wouldn't throw off the spy, though; any decent spy would know exactly what is happening.

It would be better for it to simply not show up.


What I mean is that it will clog up the spies results,forcing him to scan through and pay more attention to what happened.
For example,Framer uses frame N1,Mafia attacks and whatever RM uses their ability.The spy now has 17 different visits to go through,to try and determine what exactly had happened,and piece it together.

Also,If you do not agree with what I am saying,at least make it that the framers frame does not need to target themself.
Eventually,a decent spy will question why a person was visited 3 times on random occasions,and on those nights other TI's found their targets framed.

Edit:Small spelling error.
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby Zurn0 » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:57 pm

Make it one or two or times and sure.
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby dota2reporter » Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:33 pm

Brilliand wrote:
dota2reporter wrote:- it requires more skill now (in a good way)


Wouldn't this ability just get used the first 3 nights in most games?

true. i will probably change it to being 2 times and that framer is unable to frame the first night

and i've decided to make it so that the spy results don't show up
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby TheRealChickenPatty » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:01 am

My first post is irrelevant then.

And you are stating that Framer is detection immune from Spy?
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Re: Framer change idea

Postby dota2reporter » Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:28 am

TheRealChickenPatty wrote:My first post is irrelevant then.

And you are stating that Framer is detection immune from Spy?

framer visits are unseen by spy, yes
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