Stylist (Mafia Deception) [TOS1]

[HyperSwagX]

Stylist - Mafia Deception

Attack: None
Defense: None

Summary: You are an up-and-coming fashion designer who employs their used mannequins to assist the Mafia.

Abilities: Place a mannequin.

Attributes:
- You have two uses.
- If your target dies, the mannequin will replace them. It will not show to the town that the target died, and they will still appear alive.
- Your target will appear to Mediums in the dead chat.
- The mannequin will break if it is voted up or attacked.

Invest Results: Coming Soon!

Percise: Your target is a skilled tailor who befriends mannequins. They must be a Stylist!

Goal: Mafia faction goals.

Lore:
Coming Soon!

[SkyW]

Disguiser is the reason people put names in their wills even after it has long since stopped mattering. This role would create a similar effect.

Everyday people are just going to type their number into chat. Anyone who doesn't mark themselves as not a mannequin gets voted up. If they're a mannequin, they're revealed as one, and town moves on. If they're not a mannequin, well it's a bit suspicious that they didn't mark themselves as real, let's interrogate them. This role would really just encourage everyone to try and talk in chat at least once a day and emphasize the "quiet is evil" mindset a lot of players have.

Now, you have to keep at least one way for the town to get rid of mannequins or else Mafia will just end up with effective voting majority 2 days earlier / vigi or jailor wastes 2 kills. Visiting is too simple as well, the escort that isn't sure who the roleblock will just be told to go visit the quiet one.

Then that leads to the penultimate problem. What does Mafia really even gain from doing this. 2 day earlier (or even 1 day earlier) effective voting majority is too wildly powerful, but if you prevent that from occurring like you should... what's the advantage? How does the Stylist help their team in a way that can't be meta-gamed out of existence through "here" or "[insert number]?"

[LeagueOfFiddle]

I agree with the previous poster. I also think the Frost Spirit role suggestion is really similar to this, but better. Blackmailer too, in fact, if only it could prevent voting.

[HyperSwagX]

Don't think Town will have the presence of mind in most games to just reaction test everyone. Also, this isn't meant to be Blackmailer. It's a Forger sidegrade. Instead of purging role and will, you can make it look like Mafia hit an immune. You can make it look like the Jailed or Roleblocked was the Mafia Killing. You could make it look like Mafia is AFK. There are tons of uses.

[LeagueOfFiddle]

Don't think Town will have the presence of mind in most games to just reaction test everyone.

Reaction-testing is going to become a tryhard meta everyone hates but is forced to adhere to in order to squeeze out that last bit of tiny advantage in Ranked.

[tonicpower]

This role is too strong as mafia could get maj on avarage on d3

[HyperSwagX]

How? This only works on players that die the same night.

[Descender]

(since this was bumped to the top, can you add [TOS1] to the start of the title please)

[HyperSwagX]

yeah sure lemme fix

[Refraction77]

Don't think Town will have the presence of mind in most games to just reaction test everyone. Also, this isn't meant to be Blackmailer. It's a Forger sidegrade. Instead of purging role and will, you can make it look like Mafia hit an immune. You can make it look like the Jailed or Roleblocked was the Mafia Killing. You could make it look like Mafia is AFK. There are tons of uses.

1) It's not looking good already if the role has to rely on town being bad or "not having the presence of mind" to be useful
2) Spy makes this role completely useless as a deception role
3) It is useful in one way, which is to reduce the town's voting power by having essentially an AFK player take up a vote. This is extremely swingy though, since it could make town lose voting power by D2 if mafia and SK each get a kill. Then, all evils have to do is to not vote.

[HyperSwagX]

1. This role isn't purely useful when Town is dumb. Even a smart Town likely won't reaction test every player in the short time that the day has.
2. Spy makes all Mafia roles completely useless as deceptive roles. Your point?
3. In a Ranked list where the Mafia and the Serial Killer both kill night one, and Stylist does its thing, 14 players will appear alive, with 7 Townies truly being alive. The voting majority will be 8. The Town still has the majority, given as NK/NE are likey to not be aware Town does not have voting majority.

[Refraction77]

1. This role isn't purely useful when Town is dumb. Even a smart Town likely won't reaction test every player in the short time that the day has.
2. Spy makes all Mafia roles completely useless as deceptive roles. Your point?
3. In a Ranked list where the Mafia and the Serial Killer both kill night one, and Stylist does its thing, 14 players will appear alive, with 8 Townies truly being alive. The voting majority will be 8. The Town still has the majority.

1. It takes like 5 seconds to do a reaction test lmao. One person says "mannequin test everyone type a letter in chat", and anyone who doesn't gets voted up.
2. Fair point but it counters this role harder imo
3. If mafia and SK both kill N1, that would leave 7 townies who are truly alive, as town starts out with 9 townies, and 9 - 7 = 2. Without the stylist, the voting majority would be 7, and town barely has majority. If the stylist uses their ability, the voting majority would be raised to 8, and town on its own would not have enough votes to hang anyone or vote up the mannequin.

[Mystoc]

a way to fix this role is to only have the mannequin break if they are voted guilty and only then it it a revealed to be fake and the town gets the trial back for the day. just voting to the stand is not enough commitment to hurt town, make town call out mafias bluff and if they are wrong their trial is wasted.

I'm just picturing when the day starts and all town walk out a mannequin poltergeist walking out on its own to be mafia aren't supernatural cause it doesn't make lots of sense lore wise a mannequin being able to leave the dead towns house and move around on its own.